Category talk:English archaic terms
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Move to Category:English terms with archaic senses, because words like "absorb" are not archaic. Compare WT:RFM#Category:English_dated_terms. - -sche (discuss) 01:12, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- Move —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 21:07, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- Move. I am not aware of any complaints about Category:English terms with obsolete senses, which is the current category of the items formerly in Category:English obsolete terms.
- In principle, a bot could populate this category by inspecting each English L2 section to make sure that a given section has only archaic senses. There is the question of how to handle homonyms, one having only archaic senses, the other not. Also there would be questions of how to handle terms that had both archaic and obsolete terms and no current senses etc. DCDuring TALK 22:43, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Do NOT move. I am strongly against a conflation of "words with X sense" and "X terms" categories. Either these are to be kept distinct, or then the "terms with X senses" category should disappear, and the "X terms" should remain, but only for those words that are fully X (i.e., fully obsolete, archaic, dated, etc.), not simply have archaic (obsolete, dated) senses. As was said in the discussion at the Beer Parlor, I'm in favor of new templates {{obsolete term}}, {{archaic term}} etc. that categorize the whole world, while {{archaic}}, {{obsolete}} either remain as they are now, or then become uncategorizing labels. Main reason: a category like Category:English terms with obsolete senses has a confusing name, especially to the casual reader, who will probably think that all words in it are fully obsolete, or then that none of them are fully obsolete. Yes, logically speaking the name is correct, but most people don't think in terms of formal logics or boolean algebra.--Pereru (talk) 21:00, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- Do NOT move. Both categories should exist, since both names can be misleading if used indiscriminately. Purely obsolete terms with no modern sense should not be in "English terms with archaic senses". --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:16, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Expired with no action taken. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:16, 27 September 2014 (UTC)