Talk:-kunst

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-kunst

This page has a huge list of derived terms, many of which I'm not familiar with. However, all of those I do know are simply very transparent compounds of the noun Kunst (Popkunst is very clearly pop art). German forms compounds readily, and it would be daft to list every compounding form as a suffix (the only comparable examples we have are -kunde, which honestly seems pretty borderline to me as well, and -wesen, which has taken on an abstract meaning well beyond the meanings of Wesen). Unless there are examples where X-kunst doesn't mean "art that is X" or "art of X", this should probably go. Smurrayinchester (talk) 11:53, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

• I agree. Ƿidsiþ 11:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
• Me too. Delete. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:23, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Delete and move the derived terms -list to "Kunst". --Hekaheka (talk) 12:34, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

That part I just did. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:41, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Agreed and delete per nomination. Renard Migrant (talk) 12:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Not directly related to this nomination, but perhaps kunst- as a prefix meaning "artificial" would be acceptable (see the current sense 2 of the noun). There's also Kunstfehler (“malpractice”), which seems to be based on the original meaning of "ability" rather than the current meaning of "art". —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:45, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Delete. Equinox ◑ 19:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Delete per nom. - -sche (discuss) 20:13, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Deleted; the derived terms have already been moved over by Aɴɢʀ. bd2412 T 21:27, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

RFC discussion: August 2014

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-kunst

I don't want to RFD this, but it doesn't look great. I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as a "quasi-suffix", and I'm pretty sure that this is, in fact, just the noun Kunst. The vast majority of entries on the incredibly lengthy list of "Derived terms" are clearly just compounds of X + Kunst (eg. Avantgardekunst (avant-garde art), Popkunst (pop art), Straßenkunst (street art)). The definition also mixes up etymology, definition, usage notes and translation. Smurrayinchester (talk) 22:38, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

But shouldn't it be RfDed (possibly converted to a redirect) as Kunst is a noun in a language that forms compounds from nouns readily? DCDuring TALK 22:57, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it should be deleted via RFD. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 05:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

I just wanted to check whether there were any examples on that page that weren't simply compounds of the noun Kunst before taking it to RFD. But you're right, that's probably a better place to ask. I'll close this RFC. Smurrayinchester (talk) 11:37, 19 August 2014 (UTC)