Talk:Venizelos

Request for verification

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Hard to find clearly English citations, as opposed to transliterations.

Actually, I'm not sure how to distinguish the two.—msh210℠ 20:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

• Definition is "a surname" - doesn't actually tell us anything. SemperBlotto 21:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Not sure what else you want. Surnames don't have definitions. They have etymologies, of course, and their lowercase versions sometimes have meanings, but the names themselves are, well, just names. No?—msh210℠ 21:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

• • • So, what is the verdict? I added it here, since it is linked with the words Venizelism and Venizelist and these words exist at the Oxford dictionary online. For a similar example see the entry for Lenin and Leninism and Leninist. Thank you in advance. A.Cython 01:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

We have names like Brown, Goethe, and eg Augustus → Augustan. The name is found in enough books that I would think it would pass just like the above-mentioned Lenin. — Beobach972 18:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

• I don't entirely understand what the requirements are for surnames to be considered English at the moment, but I've taken a stab at Citations:Venizelos. The full citation format would be kind of dopey in this case, IMO (if anyone disagrees, please feel free to convert them). The Eleftherios sense also cited as a shorthand for the man in question. It could also be cited as a byword in period literature for a particularly aggressive politician, but I'm done. -- Visviva 15:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Surname RFV passed; specific-person RFV failed (no attributive uses), removed, with its quotations moved to citations-page. —Ruakh_TALK 21:50, 16 December 2009 (UTC)