Talk:arany

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Proto-Romanian is quite unlikely, as no dialect of Romanian has "ar" instead of "a-ur". It could have been some Pannonian Latin dialect. Bogdan 16:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My dictionary says it is from Finno-Ugric and then in turn from an Iranian language. Qorilla 09:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To expand what Qorilla said, according to my eymological dictionary [1] this word originates from the Ugric period. The supposed form in the root language could have been sarańa, later *θarańa meaning: gold, copper, the initial Ugric wore off in Hungarian. The word can be found in the sister languages as well, cf. Mansi tarəń, Khanty lorńə ("copper"). It is probably an Iranian borrowing, cf. Avestan zaranya-, Old Persian daraniya-, Modern Persian زر (zar) ("gold"). Equivalents in other Finno-Ugric languages are also Iranian borrowings, cf. Komi zarńi, Mordvinic sirńe, śiŕńä ("gold"). --Baron de Saint-Rémy (talk) 18:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The word has most probably common roots with Turkic. Hence the Turkic etymology for the Hungarian word sárga, "yellow". --93.217.152.104 14:34, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hungarian sárga is most likely a borrowing from some Turkic language, not a common inheritance. Although there is a significant minority among linguists who believe in a relationship between Uralic and Turkic languages, none of them are proposing the kind of clear-cut, obvious type of correspondence you're suggesting. Mostly it's based on similarities in the grammar and on correspondence of terms that are only vaguely similar in meaning. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]