Talk:bar

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Wikipedia Edit History[edit]

The Aramaic portion of this page was m:Transwikied from Wikipedia. Below is the edit history for the Wikipedia article titled Bar (Aramaic).

  • Time: 2003-09-12T00:27:56Z - By: w:User:Andrewa - Comment: new article
  • Time: 2004-05-08T20:52:26Z - By: w:User:DopefishJustin - Comment: remove link to Joseph, Barnabas is the article about him
  • Time: 2004-06-17T13:02:57Z - By: w:User:Smjg - Comment: dab
  • Time: 2004-08-16T19:41:12Z - By: w:User:RedWolf - Comment: disambiguation: Peter
  • Time: 2004-12-10T22:31:09Z - By: w:User:Garzo - Comment: Link to [[Aramaic of Jesus]] added.
  • Time: 2005-04-13T17:19:29Z - By: w:User:Msh210 - Comment: bar is also in Babylonian Jewish Aramaic; and I assume in other Aramaic dialects too. Article [[Aramaic language]] links to [[Aramaic of Jesus]] and the others.

Other languages?[edit]

Why is the part with the other languages not visible? One can edit it, but not see it :-( -- Arne List 09:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Fixed, someone tried to mix {{trans-top}} with {{bottom}}: not a good idea. \Mike 09:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, leaves two unclosed divs. Should also use {{trans-mid}} which happens to be the same as mid, but might not be sometime. Robert Ullmann 11:32, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Tea room discussion[edit]

Note: the below discussion was moved from the Wiktionary:Tea room.

Should the legal senses be moved to Bar or the Bar? Is the first legal sense UK only (all the others are marked as being)? Thryduulf 13:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

In the U.S. we definitely refer to the exam as "the Bar". And I'm not sure the other senses are actually UK-only, either — we have "bar associations", which are typically just called "the Bar" — but we don't have barristers per se (as in, we don't distinguish barristers from solicitors), so maybe our uses should just get their own sense lines. —RuakhTALK 13:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm confident that lower case use would be more common than the upper case use in the US, though upper case use would not be rare. The following illustrates a fairly common usage without "the":
  • 2003, Philip Hamburger Matters of State: A Political Excursion, page 132
    Tricia was married in New York, and Eddie passed his bars there. And not the sort of bars you have been passing this evening!
Also, the wording of the UK senses excludes the US only because of the term barrister. The phrase "admitted to the bar" is common in the US, meaning that an attorney is allowed to practice in a state or at the Federal bar. DCDuring TALK 15:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Bar is used in Canada too, but not exactly as in Britain (outside Quebec, all lawyers are both barristers and solicitors, but barrister doesn't appear that much in popular use). Per my paper dictionary, in North America the bar means lawyers or the legal profession, in Britain the Bar (capped) means barristers. I think a separate sense is simply an abbreviation of bar examMichael Z. 2008-09-12 17:58 z
IMHO: No, don't move to the Bar; but if necessary, move the legal senses to "Proper noun" heading, otherwise just keep it the way it is now, which seems clear enough. Or, copy the legal senses to "the Bar" or "the bar" but keep them under "bar" so they wouldn't be missed by a reader looking up "bar"; but the thought of having articles starting with 'the' doesn't seem attractive, because there could be lots of proper nouns preceded by 'the', such as "the Great Lakes" or "the Supreme Court"... —AugPi 05:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Bar vs. barline[edit]

I've never heard the verticle line dividing a stave into sections as simply a "bar"; in my experience it's always, in the UK at least, called a barline. Any citations for the current definition no.14? —JakeybeanTALK 00:54, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


Bar - level of achievement[edit]

How about bar as a level of achievement? Hard as he tried, his work never reached the bar.

Burger bar[edit]

"Burger bar" doesn't seem to be covered by any sense here. Equinox 18:10, 7 September 2013 (UTC)