Actually, I'm not sure I made anything better here.
There appear to be several notions of cultural literacy floating about:
- Whatever Ed Hirsch originally meant.
- Familiarity with the Dead White Guys.
- Familiarity with the culture or cultures in which one is immersed.
- General ability to grok things cultural.
In particular, I think Hirsh was concerned mainly with the main currents of thought underlying our current culture, for example the debate over monarchy vs. republic vs. democracy or the tension between civil order and personal liberty.
The Wikipedia article — assuming it's not just one person's viewpoint — emphasizes allusions and other more ephemeral qualities.
There also seems to be a thread of cultural literacy aimed at promoting cultural diversity through mutual awareness of each other's cultures.
This all needs to be researched and teased out.
What was this ever doing on RFD? -dmh 16:21, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Well said. I could not agree more. This is a good summery of the range of thought associated with cultural literacy.
I new there must be some folks inside wiktionary that are aware of this far reaching discussion which, is effecting the educational, medical and African American communities and others here in America.
I knew that there was someone in here that knew who was on first, what was on second, and you guessed it, I don't know if where is on third unless he is in a category.
I added Cultural Literacy to the category Culture so it is easy to find by topic
--Aunk 13:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Discussion on RfD about Cultural Literacy
I request that the term and the broader discussion on cultural competence remain.
Cultural literacy, cultural health and cultural poisoning all part of the same discussion.
Hopefully we can resolve this quickly by carrying on our rfd discussion in the Cultural Health rfd space to save time and energy. --Aunk 19:45, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, they can all go. Some sort of spamvertising I think. SemperBlotto 19:47, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
- Seems more like someone trying to push a particulr group of terms, yes. I guess my question is a little more specific...I recall a recent event on Wikipedia where an author was "caught" entering/correcting data about themselves. IIRC, that action raised quite a few feathers, but I never stuck around long enough to find out why. I would like to know if this is a comparable situation; where the proponent of a particular term is the sole published author used for citations. And if so, does that merit special treatment? --Connel MacKenzie 03:43, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
- I am sure that it is self-advertising for a book by Rudy Auk. They are also on -pedia. I might have a go at RfD-ing them there, if I can remember the convoluted process. SemperBlotto 07:12, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
- The term cultural literacy has been around a long time. It was first pushed to prominence in Cultural Literacy: What Every American Needs to Know, by Ed Hirsch, ISBN 0394758439, Copyright 1988. As I understand it (I haven't read it), it urges Americans to become better informed of the usual Western Civilization curriculum. It has since been taken up by those who think that the world is being taken over by "political correctness" and others who think the world is going to hell in a handbasket (I'm not sure whether Hirsh himself was in that camp). As a result, mention of the book or the concept are likely to increase the heat/light ratio dramatically in some circles.
- None of this makes cultural literacy (uncapitalized) any less worthy of an entry, though it most likely needs NPOVing. The other two seem non-idiomatic. -dmh 16:09, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Hetep and respect good spirits
Thanks for inviting me to make the case for the cultural health article with respect to the rfd.
Put your six shooter away, it is just me, this is not rocket science. The answers to your concerns are at hand. I just found out about Wiktionary (I know I am slow) it is a great vision. All knowledge accessible to all, I love it. I am here in at Wiktionary contributing to its vision for the same reason I am in America contributing to the forward movement of our United States Constitution's vision. Both visions are worth the investment of my time because their realization will be of great value to my children, grandchildren and the citizens of the world.
Next let me assure you that I am not here to sell a particular book. I am here to add to the OPEN knowledge base. I am obviously a writer (more or less) I make that plain in my user page for anyone that for anyone who takes a look. As I add to that page you will find that that is not all I am.
It is equally obvious that the individual (s) who would make such a claim are not writers. Otherwise they would understand that a book like DoubleSpeak in Black and White that has been in paper back for more then three years has done what ever it is going to do financially and is in maintenance mode.
They would also know, that we non Bill Clinton scale writers, make our money by writing the next book and the one after that etc. which, by the way I am not doing while I am up here at wiktionary putting up GNU (FREE information) license contributions.
I apologize if I have broken any rule here at wiktionary that was not my intention. I have removed the source references I made to Doublespeak and Cultural Literacy by Hirsch in my definition contributions here at wiktionary, just in case it violated a rule.
Last but not least, contributing to this wiki project, as I am finding out takes far to much time for a working author facing a deadline.
I hope you will let my small start up contributions stand. I hope you will help me comply with your rules as I get up to speed. Finally, I am confident that others will come along to pick this ball, as I must get back to the Podcasting web site I am putting in place. My Thursday night show and the current book I am working on. Etc.
For those not familiar with the cultural competency discussions taking place in the African American and other communities, see cultural health article at wikipedia for edification.
ck discussion page no point in reposting that here.
Tnx for your concideration
p.s. What is NPOVing ?
Hetep and Respect Connel MacKenzie
Thanks for the info on NPOV. I have read NPOV guidelines. I am up to speed now and will comply. Thanks for the help
--Aunk 19:56, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
- I've saved "cultural literacy" since it has been documented, but deleted the other two. Eclecticology 03:54:21, 2005-09-05 (UTC)