Talk:educated guess

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citation for wild guess[edit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23j1B4-lroM --Espoo (talk) 12:06, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RFV discussion: March–June 2015[edit]

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Rfv-sense "wild guess". --Is this common enough to merit inclusion? I mean, we should not record every flippant usage that has ever occurred. --Hekaheka (talk) 05:27, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Probably delete but will see how the discussion goes. Move to RFD. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 05:28, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would position educated guess and wild guess as almost opposites: while both are guesses, one is based on the guesser's past experience and wisdom, and the other is, as it even says in the term itself, wild and not based on much of anything. So listing one as a definition of the other can only be an error. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 15:27, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is really an RFD matter. Sarcastic usage shouldn't be included unless it overwhelmingly dominates straight usage (thanks a bunch, Sherlock). See WT:RFD#Einstein, talk:thanks a lot, talk:touché and talk:James Bond for examples of RFD debates on sarcastic or ironic terms. Smurrayinchester (talk) 15:50, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As it happens, I am currently drafting the Wikipedia article on guessing (hard to believe that there is none after all this time), at w:Draft:Guess. These terms are included in it. bd2412 T 16:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete it. A great number of phrases are used in a tongue-in-cheek manner, diverting from the proper sense. Donnanz (talk) 19:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Three for deletion, none for saving > deleting. --Hekaheka (talk) 16:01, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]