Talk:foreign country

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foreign country

Gotta be SOP, right? --Type56op9 (talk) 15:29, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, keep it, what else do you call them? It's a translation target anyway, and I've got one to enter. Donnanz (talk) 16:42, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

• Keep per Donnanz. If we have the "I have a..." series... Purplebackpack89 17:22, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

"Phrasebook entries are very common expressions that are considered useful to non-native speakers." Keep per that, but per that only. It's not idiomatic as you can say foreign land, so it's not a unique use of 'foreign'. Renard Migrant (talk) 18:17, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

If only we had a phrasebook. DCDuring TALK 23:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

• Delete. Foreign nation, foreign land, foreign homeland, foreign polity, foreign region, overseas country...--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Delete. Stupid entry IMO, very SoP. Equinox ◑ 22:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Delete. And the translation target is probably best as foreign + country. DCDuring TALK 00:21, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

It's SOP in English but good as a translation target. Added the category. Keep as a translation target. In East Asian languages "foreign country" is synonymous for "abroad" and terms for "foreigner" are based on "foreign country" + "person". Other languages have non-SoP terms for it as well. Nothing stupid about the entry, BTW. foreign + country won't work for e.g. 外國／外国 (wàiguó), nước ngoài or чужби́на (čužbína). --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 00:25, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Keep per Atitarev.Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 04:13, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Translation target argument is irrelevant and degrades English Wiktionary. Its persistent use wastes time. Use SoP translations, but link to the components. It's only four extra keystrokes. Make more FL entries instead of having all those damned redlinks in the translation tables. DCDuring TALK 04:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

I disagree. It's not about making linking to components and they are not degrading the English Wiktionary. Users are able to find translations of "foreign country" in other dictionaries: e.g. foreign country in Thai ต่างประเทศ (dtàang-bprà-tâyt); เมืองนอก (meuang-nôk) and foreign country in Korean 외국 (oeguk). --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 05:32, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

• Keep. Wyang (talk) 10:37, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Any particular reasons? — Keφr 10:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
    • At a minimum, this could be kept as a translation target. Wyang (talk) 21:48, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
      • Have you read the other definitions? Renard Migrant (talk) 13:57, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
• Keep as a translation target, if nothing else. This, that and the other (talk) 09:44, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Delete as a damned SOP (in my opinion). Rædi Stædi Yæti {-skriv til mig-} 14:43, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

• Keep. It's useful as a translation target entry. Not sure if we have a specific policy on this, but I think it would be a good idea to keep all these kind of entries in one category for safe-keeping. A good rule might be that the entry must have a minimum of, say, six languages that translate it as one word. From what I can see looking at this entry's translation table, it is one word in Belarusian, Bulgarian, Catalan, Chinese, Dutch, Finnish, Hebrew, Hungarian, Icelandic, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Macedonian, Polish, Russian, Serbo-Croatian, Spanish and Ukrainian. That's quite a lot, and probably only the tip of the iceberg. ---> Tooironic (talk) 03:10, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Kept; clear absence of consensus to delete. At some point we should memorialize "translation target" as a CFI rule, though. bd2412 T 21:12, 5 December 2014 (UTC)