Talk:pessimistic

RFD discussion: October 2013–July 2014

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pessimistic

Rfd-redundant: "Always expecting the worst." Redundant to "Marked by pessimism and little hopefulness." Both definitions are frankly a bit weak but they have separate translation tables so I want a consensus to unify them before I merge them. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:54, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Merge. — Ungoliant ^(Falai) 22:09, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes I mean merge, since they're both the same but imperfect. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:14, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

I think there is room for a distinction that not every dictionary makes. A person can be pessimistic and an impersonal forecast/outlook/appraisal/assessment can be pessimistic. It seems silly to say or imply that a forecast is pessimistic only because of the pessimism of forecaster, but that is what most dictionaries' definitions seem to imply.

If the distinction doesn't seem worth distinct sense, perhaps usage examples can show the application to both people and predictions.

Of course, this isn't reflecting in the existing senses which seem to be the same meaning worded for different types of dictionaries. DCDuring TALK 22:30, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't oppose such a distinction. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:44, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Definitions merged (I think it counts as "delete" here). I also added a definition "Pertaining to the worst-case scenario" for the impersonal meaning; feel free to improve it. — Keφr 18:14, 25 July 2014 (UTC)