Talk:porn

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Request for clean-up: check whether the unclassified synonyms exist, and then add those that do to the list for the appropriate sense. — Paul G 15:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

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I cleaned up a bit in response to RFC.

Deleted some of the syns, as these were just 'movie' (or flick or film) preceded by the word 'porn'.

Added Adjective heading, which is more appropriate to the above.

Moved all other syns to list below to save space in article. Add them if you can confirm usage.

  • beaver (flick), beaver loop, beefcake film, bluey, cock-movie, cockfest, cinebonds, cinema XXX, cinemaroticism, cinemarotic, exibeeshes, flesh flick, fuck film, het film, horn movie,

Removed plural porns, request verification.

Removed rfc.

--Dmol 13:41, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

porns/porno[edit]

I agree with the removal of "porns" as a pl. - I've only ever heard the uncountable pluralization "porn" or alternately "pornos". Additionally, I'd question the inclusion of "porno" as a derived term of "porn"; both are simply derivations of "pornography".

I agree wholeheartedly that "porno" should be moved to the "pornography" page as a derivation. The word "pornographic," for example, with the long o before the g (in contrast to the short o before the g in pornography), is more probably the specific source; hence, a porno[graphic] movie. StavinChain 20:28, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Tea room discussion[edit]

Special:PermanentLink/24940030#porn —This unsigned comment was added by Msh210 (talkcontribs).

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See citations:porn for lots of cites of "porn" being used to describe things that aren't pornographic ("garden porn", "railway porn", etc). It means lots of, or gratuitous, pictures, videos, or other things (e.g. "timetable porn", although that isn't durably archived) related to whatever someone's hobby or interest is. E.g. "garden porn" is is beautiful gardens, "car porn" is fast/otherwise desirable cars. I don't know how to write this as a concise definition though. Thryduulf (talk) 14:51, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

  • 2004 Nov 14, Sheryl Van der Leun, “Indecent Exposure; When Did Cookware and Fly-Fishing Go X-Rated?”, The Washington Post, Washington, D.C., page B.05:
    So there I was, perusing the Perfex salt grinders at my local Williams-Sonoma store, when I overheard an excited thirty-something shopper exclaim breathlessly as she walked by the $1,999 Jura-Capresso Impressa S8 Super Automatic Espresso Coffeemaker, "Oh, this is pure kitchen-porn. Get me out of here."
    All around us, innocent phrases are being corrupted by wanton use of the porn suffix [sic]. Hitherto untainted language is being flagrantly violated, willfully transformed into lusty euphemisms, lending these words an attribution they neither requested nor deserve. It seems some of us cannot express ourselves -- or at least our passions -- without resorting to porn.
    Sigh. Can't we just really, really like something without turning it into a carnal obsession? Can't we keep porn -- and I mean porn-porn, not gadget-porn or vegan-porn (yes, there is such a site) -- where it belongs, behind the green door and away from the innocent objects and activities of everyday life?
The second definition at pornography is a starting point: "The graphic, detailed, often gratuitous depiction of something." Perhaps it needs to be supplemented with the notion that the depiction has the effect (is prepared with the intent) of appealing to human desire in a way analogous to real (sexual) pornography. DCDuring TALK 16:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
On a more technical angle, the second definition ("(countable, informal) A pornographic film") implies that we'd say "I'm watching a porn" (or maybe "some porns"). Perhaps there was some confusion about which entry this was under as it seems to me to belong under "porno" but definitely not under "porn", which I have never heard used as a countable noun.
As far as as the "food [etc] porn" thing goes, isn't this just a very understandable extension of the word "porn" to refer to anything that might be intended to elicit desire in viewers?--Person12 08:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Regarding your comment about "foot [etc] porn", yes that's clearly the origin of the term, but the meaning is different - you don't get arrested for showing food porn to the vicar's 9 year old daughter. Thryduulf (talk) 09:14, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Is a consequence like that an inherent part of the term's meaning though? Hmmm.--Person12 01:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


RFV discussion[edit]

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Rfv-sense "(countable, informal) A pornographic film."

The user tagging this left an edit summary indicating that it is specifically the countability that they find dubious. Thryduulf (talk) 09:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps it's based on the plural form pronz that you often find around the internet. —CodeCat 11:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
The plural is easily attested via b.g.c, also based on the edit summary I am not sure that the tagger knows what they are talking about; what do they mean by stating that "a porns" doesn't make sense? "Some porns" does make sense though, and is in common usage. - TheDaveRoss 19:20, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
In that sense porns is really a synonym of porn, hence a plurale tantum. —CodeCat 12:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Cited, but I've changed the def to "a pornographic work", and tagged it as "especially in plural". CodeCat (talkcontribs) says that porns is a plurale tantum, which is mostly true, but this being the entry for countable porn, I specifically added cites where it was either singular or numerically quantified (as opposed to cites where “porns” could be changed to “porn” without any noticeable effect). —RuakhTALK 23:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

RFV passed.​—msh210 (talk) 18:06, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

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porn[edit]

Adjective. I don't think it meets the CGEL tests for ajdective. See WT:English adjectives. DCDuring TALK 02:20, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Agree; delete the adjectival senses. --EncycloPetey 03:53, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Delete (or cite, I suppose). Mglovesfun (talk) 20:25, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
I haveno idea what rules we're supposed to be using. (Wt:English adjectives hasn't AFAICT met with community support yet.) But this doesn't sound like an adjective to me. (Specifically, some of the wt:English adjectives tests sound off.) So probably delete. Cites would help determine whether it meets the wt:English adjectives (or other) tests.​—msh210 (talk) 20:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
It's used as an adjective for lack of a proper term "pornsome" "pornly", or instead of the complicated "pornographically" or the ignorant sounding "porny" but it is used in an incorrect but idiomatic manner. I added a usex to exemplify the usage that I have heard. I highly suggest we hold off on deleting this and put in an honest search for citations. I think it will take a while since most searches would result in having to swim through the much more prevalent noun use.Lucifer 10:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
... but won't nearly all the cites we find be just attributive usage of the noun? I'm not sure that the idiom "so (noun)" counts as evidence of adjectival usage. Dbfirs 10:40, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
What about "very porn", "its porn", "too porn"? It's definitely used as an adjective because their is lack of a clear and usable one, such as "pornly"Lucifer 07:45, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

deleted -- Liliana 21:40, 27 January 2012 (UTC)