Talk:true

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English[edit]

See below, "Compound Words and Terms"

Erm, where? 81.68.255.36 18:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably it meant what's labeled as "Derived terms", but I removed the reference, which didn't really belong there. Thanks for the heads-up. In the future, you can make such changes yourself.​—msh210 (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That was an old section from about five years ago: Compound words and terms. It was deleted somewhere along the way. —Stephen (Talk) 18:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RFV archive[edit]

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(Noun) "The fitment of a part in a machine such that their axes coincide". Not really sure what this is saying, but it looks fishy to me. Polarpanda 19:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's ungrammatical. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it's meant to be an adjective. Chambers has "accurately adjusted or in tune" and "straight or flat." Pingku 19:56, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What's ungrammatical about it? —RuakhTALK 20:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We don't have a definition of fitment for the implied sense of "an act of fitting." Even if we did, I'd struggle connecting it with a noun sense of "true". Pingku 20:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
... and certainly not "plural only". Can anyone find usage of "a true" or "trues" in this sense? I would guess that there will be occasional such use, in which case we need to move the "plural only" and change "fitment" to "fitting". Dbfirs 20:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On reflection, it's grammatical but poorly worded. Looks like the work of a non-native English speaker. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hasn't anyone ever heard of something being "out of true" or "in true"? I am not sure that the word is currently in general use in the sense intended outside of those terms.
The word fitment does not appear in COCA, and does appear in BNC. As a UK term it ought not be in the definition.
Would "alignment" be an adequate synonym? DCDuring TALK 23:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm guess a dated or rare British word, I've absolutely never heard of it. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:18, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Are your referring to "true" in this sense or to "fitment"? DCDuring TALK 15:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Citations added for the "alignment" sense. All of them actually "out of true." Pingku 12:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't found any valid citations for "into true" or "in true".
  • I have inserted an RfV-sense tag for the sense of "true": those who are loyal or faithful. This seems like an elliptical construction that is possible for almost any sense of any adjective. I believe that no use can be found where there is not a specific omitted referent. consider the following:
    "There was an imbalance between true and false answers. The true constituted 54% of the total.

-- DCDuring TALK 15:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DCDuring, I've never heard of fitment in any context. Any UK people actually heard this or seen it in use? Mglovesfun (talk) 16:17, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There are 21 hits for the word at BYU's BNC. I didn't check for the sense. It is in some dictionaries. It seems real, but a very poor choice of word to use in a definition. DCDuring TALK 16:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't implying it wasn't real, just that it's likely to be rare, or dated. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think "fitment" is more common in the UK than "true" in the questioned sense (especially in the sense of a part to be fitted), but I agree that it is not a suitable word to use in the definition. Dbfirs 21:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged senses removed per above. (I'm not sure if "RFV failed" would be quite accurate, though.) —RuakhTALK 19:20, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Missing adjective in anatomy?[edit]

Chambers 1908 defines it as "(anatomy) complete". No example is given. Equinox 22:35, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

flying straight and true as if by wing: winged words[edit]

What meaning is used in flying straight and true as if by wing: winged words ? --Backinstadiums (talk) 20:14, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

adverb[edit]

In a true manner; truly; truthfully 2. in conformity with the ancestral type: to breed true. 3, come true, to have the expected or hoped-for result; become a reality. --Backinstadiums (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]