Talk:yarmulke

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pronunciation[edit]

I have never before, heard this pronounced with "mul" instead of "ma" in the middle. --Connel MacKenzie 17:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

It is true that (in the US at least), the [more "correct"] pronunciation "yommel key" is not always heard -- and the [less "correct"] pronunciation "yommica" is heard pretty often. But IMHO the etymological derivation from Aramaic (see the section on Etymology) suggests that the pronunciation "should" contain an "ell" sound. --Mike Schwartz 23:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

etymology[edit]

I question (the last part of) the etymology given here. At yarmulke#Etymology, it says:

<<From Yiddish [...], from the Polish [...] probably from the Turkish yağmurluk (“rainwear”). [...] >>

However, at least one authoritative website begs to differ. According to http://judaism.about.com/od/prayersworshiprituals/f/kippah.htm , it says that << Appropriately, the Yiddish word for head covering, "yarmulke," comes from the Aramaic, yira malka, which means "awe of the King." >> --Mike Schwartz 23:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I've heard that Aramaic explanation, or something like that, but never AFAIR from an authoritative source. Why do you consider judaism.about.com to be authoritative on matters of etymology of Yiddish words? I know very little about etymology, but in general, though there are exceptions, I'd sooner believe a Polish etymon for a Yiddish word than an Aramaic one. Perhaps user:Widsith can help: I have the impression he knows something about Germanic languages' etymology.​—msh210 (talk) 21:34, 5 May 2011 (UTC)