Template talk:fr-adj

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Discussion[edit]

  • What do I do with bienheureux? Not sure how to specify the masculine plural.. Widsith 08:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

There are some adjectives in which the masculine singular has two forms, one used before a vowel which induces liaison. E.g. ce garçon, cet ami; vieux chêne, vieil arbre. How do we enter this form? PierreAbbat 19:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Some entries use {{fr-infl-adj-m2}} for that. —Internoob (Talk|Cont.) 23:51, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Solved that problem. Use an m2= parameter. —Internoob (DiscCont) 17:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Strange category sorting[edit]

There's something wrong with this template: articles are being sorted under the letter '{' instead of their correct place. This seems to affect other languages too; see the placement of the article ovin in Category:Finnish noun forms.--Jyril 20:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

mp, and pf[edit]

The parameter names are mp and pf. Nothing wrong with that if people don't get confused, but they have: see tiers, which uses the parameters pm and pf; the pm is ignored, so the template sees no plural and just assumes the default of adding s to the end of the singular, resulting in the displayed tierss. (Not knowing French, I don't know that that's wrong, so am not fixing it, but I imagine it is.)—msh210 19:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Updates[edit]

Per {{fr-adj-al}} that recently passed a request for deletion. There seems to be a possibility of renaming that to {{fr-adj/al}} look at similar Portuguese templates. So local becomes {{fr-adj|loc|al}}. I suspect updating all of this puts a bit of strain on the server, so I won't rush into it. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

mf and inv[edit]

Currently, mf and inv are separate parameters so they are independent of each other. Does that really apply in practice? I'd imagine that all inv adjectives are mf by implication, so we can use the first parameter to choose either mf or inv, and the extra parameter is unnecessary. —CodeCat 17:19, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

You are correct. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:22, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Category:French adjective forms[edit]

Can we add this back as well as Category:French non-lemma forms when mp or its synonyms mplural are the same as the page name? I know it's very minor, but I like it for accuracy. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:24, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I think that's redundant. The entry is already a lemma, so it's not also a non-lemma form. —CodeCat 14:25, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
I don't see why an entry can't be both. How about the English word sheep? Renard Migrant (talk) 14:27, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
I think that's redundant too. —CodeCat 14:39, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Depends what you mean by redundant. It's definitely correct and I think the fact that it's correct is enough, no? Renard Migrant (talk) 14:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, the main reason we categorise forms is because every entry needs at least one POS category. Nobody is ever actually going to search through the forms and look for entries that way. So if the entry already has a POS category, then there is no need for another one. A term is either a lemma form or it's not. If a form coincides with its lemma form, then it's still a lemma, not a non-lemma. —CodeCat 14:46, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
"Well, the main reason we categorise forms is because every entry needs at least one POS category." Yes I think it is a lot like Sisyphus's punishment, except in our case it's a self-imposed punishment. I think you're dead right, we categorize for our own purposes, not for the benefit of users, then we don't use the categorization for anything. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:51, 15 July 2014 (UTC)