Template talk:non-gloss definition

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Discussion[edit]

CSS class[edit]

I'm not sure that 'use-with-mention' is the best CSS class to use for this template, but it seems to be a decent first approximation since the Category:Form of templates are a type of non-gloss definition. Feel free to suggest or create a different CSS class if you have any better ideas. Rod (A. Smith) 18:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Just to keep information together, there's the BP discussion (June 2008) about this template. --Bequw¢τ 08:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

context[edit]

Should context tags be inside or outside this template?—msh210 17:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Outside, I would think. Do you have an example where they might look better inside the template? Rod (A. Smith) 17:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
It shouldn't depend on looks. The template should surround the non-gloss definition. We should decide what that conprises (e.g., whether it includes the context tags). Once we've decided where the template goes, we can decide what it looks like. At least, I think so.—msh210 18:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, that's a good approach. My opinion is that context tags apply to an entire sense of an entry, and that each sense is defined by one or more semi-colon-separated definitions. Most of those definitions are glosses, but in special entries, one definition or one way of expressing a particular sense may be non-glossy. I imagine these variations:
# a glossy [[definition]] for one sense
# a glossy [[definition]] for another sense; another glossy way of expressing this sense
# {{non-gloss definition|indicates some sense that is difficult to express as a gloss}}
# a glossy [[definition]]; {{non-gloss definition|indicates something about this sense that the glossy definition expresses ambiguously or imperfectly}}
# {{context|some grammar, register, dialect, field, colocation details, etc.}} another glossy [[definition]]
# {{context|some grammar, register, dialect, field, colocation details, etc.}} another glossy [[definition]]; another glossy way of expressing this sense
# {{context|some grammar, register, dialect, field, colocation details, etc.}} {{non-gloss definition|indicates some sense that is difficult to express as a gloss}}
# {{context|some grammar, register, dialect, field, colocation details, etc.}} a glossy [[definition]]; {{non-gloss definition|indicates something about this sense that the glossy definition expresses ambiguously or imperfectly}}
So, context tags seem to belong immediately after the "#" of a sense, outside of this template. Does that seem right? Rod (A. Smith) 19:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
To me, fwiw, yes.—msh210 16:36, 25 June 2008 (UTC)