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Sorry I pasted the wrong link. The one I meant was WT:Grease pit/2012/December#Template:list:days of the week/yi, which itself links to WT:Grease pit/2012/November#Expanding the list templates.

CodeCat19:20, 30 December 2012

That doesn't at all look like consensus to delete this major template. I think there should be an RFDO about this.

Yair rand (talk)19:26, 30 December 2012

It's not a concensus to delete it, just a consensus to replace it. It will be RFDOed once it's no longer needed.

CodeCat19:28, 30 December 2012

I'm sorry, but this isn't making any sense to me at all. What exactly do you think RFDO is for? Routine clearing out of orphaned templates and categories?

Yair rand (talk)19:33, 30 December 2012

Yes? I see it more as "making sure that nobody has a problem with deleting it". That's how most people seem to use it. I recall that {{Xyzy}} failed RFDO but because it was never orphaned, it was never deleted, and it's still hanging around. I generally go to BP or GP when it comes to changes that don't involve deletion, like the one that's being made now.

CodeCat19:40, 30 December 2012

I see. As you may have noticed, many of the items currently listed at RFDO are still very much in use, and the discussions are mostly about whether the templates or categories should be used. This indicates that your view of RFDO is not universally accepted. Perhaps there should be a discussion in the Beer parlour about the purpose of RFDO?

Yair rand (talk)19:49, 30 December 2012

Why stand on ceremony? Everyone who was reading the GP and cared enough to comment supported the notion, if I remember correctly. Essentially, the people at RFDO and at the GP are more or less an identical crowd, and unless there's a good reason to keep things the way they were that I'm simply too thick to see (and that's a distinct possibility), I don't get why this is a problem.

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds20:15, 30 December 2012
 

I've started Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2013/January#Purpose of RFDO to clarify what the purpose of RFDO is and whether an RFDO is necessary before the template is deprecated and orphaned. (For the record, I support keeping the template.)

Yair rand (talk)16:53, 1 January 2013