[[Template:pedia]]

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It's working now, but you still don't have a consensus to move it (as it was a BOLD move, and I object to it), and you should have explained why in an edit summary why you were doing what you were doing. How many times do people have to tell you to start using edit summaries before you actually USE them?

Purplebackpack8923:51, 11 August 2014

I think you're mistaken. Template:pedia has been a redirect for a long time, all I did was change what it points to because that page got moved. When you reverted my change, you actually broke the template.

As for Template:PL:pedia, nobody cares about that because it's not used directly in entries, it was only called via Template:projectlink. So I moved it to better reflect that.

CodeCat23:54, 11 August 2014

You shoulda discussed it before doing it, and clearly explained why you did what you did. You did neither, and you edit-warred on top of it. I cannot for the life of me fathom why you think that acceptable

Purplebackpack8923:57, 11 August 2014

Why would a technical move of an infrastructure template that is only called by other templates need to be discussed?

CodeCat00:00, 12 August 2014
  1. Another editor (me) objected to the move
  2. It required you editing a shitton of pages to not make things broken.
Purplebackpack8900:25, 12 August 2014

Only 6 redirects if I remember correctly. And your objections were noted, but founded on erroneous assumptions (specifically that I had moved Template:pedia).

CodeCat00:27, 12 August 2014

It makes a zillion times more sense for Template:pedia to have the text than whatever the hell had it yesterday, or whatever has it today.

Purplebackpack8900:36, 12 August 2014

Why?

CodeCat00:37, 12 August 2014

Because of this

Purplebackpack8900:44, 12 August 2014

And what about this then?

CodeCat00:50, 12 August 2014
 
 

Aliases exist at short (easy to type) and memorable titles precisely to allow the actual guts of templates to be located at more fully-descriptive and/or logical pattern-fitting names without inconveniencing editors. In this case, the guts were moved from one place to another, but you can still type {{pedia}} as always...

- -sche (discuss)01:38, 12 August 2014

Well, I've been wondering about this. Since these templates are really meant to be invoked through {{projectlink}}, would it be beneficial to either (or both):

  1. Make {{pedia}} invoke {{projectlink}} with the appropriate parameters?
  2. Create shortcuts for both {{projectlink}} and some of the parameters it accepts, so that {{projectlink|Wikipedia}} can be shortened to {{plink|w}}?

If we go for option 2, then it's not appreciably longer than typing {{pedia}}, and we could opt to get rid of it after a while. What do you think?

CodeCat01:42, 12 August 2014
 
 
 
 

Because other editors interested in the infrastructure may want to raise objections. Like it happened there. This is not such a bad idea in principle.

Though if I edited a template used only on behalf of a single other template, I might have not bothered as well. We unfortunately lack a clear division between "public" and "private" infrastructure, changing of which can be considered equivalent to editing a single template. Which means (among other reasons) that we have to rely on editors' judgement about whether a change needs discussion. There have been repeated complaints about yours being unreasonably skewed in favour of not discussing things beforehand. You might want to remember that.

Keφr07:33, 12 August 2014