PB& JP89

This is not an answer.

I think what Chuck is saying is that you've given me ample cause to be upset with you and demand that you hand over your tools

Where did that come from? You do know that the Jedi Mind Trick is just a plot device in a movie, right? If I had wanted to say that, I would have said it.

It's blatantly clear from me from this thread alone that Kephir doesn't see any problem with his edits. That in itself is a really big problem, in addition to those edits themselves. What he seems to be saying is that any means necessary should be used to get me off this project, even ways that bend or break the rules.

To the contrary. This thread convinced me that your indefinite ban should be enacted by a community-wide vote. In which I only plan to be involved by making sure you will not derail it like you did with the last thread on BP to block you.

Of course, you can still avoid all that. For starters, you could stop spilling drama on talk pages of every single person who disagrees with you, acknowledge that this project has different norms from Wikipedia and try to understand and/or accommodate those norms. Stop editing purely on spite, stop watching people's contributions lists for every perceived misconduct. Getting rid of that silly page would be a good gesture of goodwill.

Otherwise, expect a vote to ban you forever, in which you will have no say.

(Whoever wishes to do the deed, please let me know.)

I'm wondering Kephir if this is an attempt to get de-sysopped. A bit like when you want the other person to dump you, if you behave badly enough they'll do it. If User:Purplebackpack89/Wiktionary:Votes/2015-01/De-sysoping Kephir were an actual vote tomorrow, would you support it or oppose it?

Why do you ask?

seriously? You're threatening him over creating a vote?

Everyone here has the right to create a vote and it's up to the community to accept it or not. And you won't prevent it as long as I am here. And don't even think about banning him because of it. I have good connections to Wikimedia stewards. You have been warned.

"I have good connections to Wikimedia stewards. You have been warned."

How many more people have you threatened this way? Is this why you have not been desysopped yet? Because that would explain a lot.

And no, I am not going to ban him over this vote. I do not have to. There is plenty of other abuse to pick from.

Threatened? I laugh at thee.

I outright desysopped Ivan Stambuk via stewards. He was not amused. If that's what you want, then I can arrange that, sure.

There is only one vote here granting him adminship. There is no evidence in the logs or anywhere else of him ever being stripped of rights. I also looked at other wikis where he substantially edited, nothing there either. By Occam's razor, I infer you are lying.

Though in case you are not, I wonder what the supposed reason would be for that happening.

Lying or not, for that remark alone, I think a vote of confidence on your adminship is in order. I can also submit myself to one if the community so wishes.

Oh sorry, I confused him with Dick Laurent. He was desysopped by me in 2010. And it won't show up on the local logs because it shows up on the Meta logs only as a steward action.

I wish both of you would stop this! I disagree with many of Kephir's actions, and I find many of PBPs extremely annoying, but I would prefer to avoid things like blocks and desysopping. Threats- whether idle or otherwise- are just poisoning the atmosphere and escalating things.

As the philosopher Jagger once said, “You can't always get what you want.”

I too find this situation regrettable. But it is not going to be solved by doing nothing. The atmosphere is already poisoned, and tolerating this state of affairs is precisely what brought us here.

You said "We'll burn that bridge when we come to it...", but you know this is not going to happen. You have seen this already.