User talk:Cehihin

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No "Han tu"[edit]

They are called "Han characters" here. --Connel MacKenzie 22:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Reason? --—This unsigned comment was added by Cehihin (talkcontribs).
Supposedly it's because the Japanese "kanji," Korean "hanja," and Chinese "hanzi" have all become English words (although I really doubt that the Chinese term "hanzi" has become an English word), but the Vietnamese "Hán tự" has not. 24.29.228.33 01:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

đéo[edit]

Please do not copy and paste entries here. We do not accept copyright violations. đéo has been deleted. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 00:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Chu nom[edit]

If you're going to add chu nom to Wiktionary, that's great! There are very few of them here. Is there any sort of system to your adding them, i.e., how many are there to add? You can see some of them at the bottom of Wiktionary:Requested entries:Vietnamese. 24.29.228.33 01:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

i plan to add every Nom. --—This unsigned comment was added by Cehihin (talkcontribs).

Excellent. By the way, to sign your posts, place four tildes after your post, like this: ~~~~ 24.29.228.33 02:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

i know --—This unsigned comment was added by Cehihin (talkcontribs).

𡏘[edit]

Could you please revisit this entry? Your sources seem to conflict nearly everything you've put into this entry. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 03:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

what do you mean. --—This unsigned comment was added by Cehihin (talkcontribs).

Try clicking the links, and comparing them to the entry. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 02:47, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

i did --—This unsigned comment was added by Cehihin (talkcontribs).

chu Nom categories[edit]

titles should (actually MUST) start with "Vietnamese" Robert Ullmann 01:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

ok. --—This unsigned comment was added by Cehihin (talkcontribs).

would you also read Wiktionary:About Chinese characters and at leat try to follow the layout? All entries for characters start with a ==Translingual== section, then the language sections (and it is ==Vietnamese==, not "Viet" etc), and the other headers go on level 3 and 4. Try to look at other entries; else it is jsut a mess for someone to clean up. Thanks, Robert Ullmann 01:28, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

ok. i am not sure what translingual is so i am not going to add until i am finish reading it or someone explain it. Viet and 'namese are the same. and people can actually see it in details/true Latin form. i will try to my best to follow. --—This unsigned comment was added by Cehihin (talkcontribs).
I'm not sure if Robert understands that many Chu nom are not translingual because they were invented in Vietnam and only used in Vietnam (and no other language but Vietnamese), and are not Chinese characters. Of course, that's only true of some percentage of Chu nom that don't have Chinese equivalents, but there are many, many that are only used in Vietnam, and in no other nation. If you intend to begin entries for those, it may entail using a slightly different format than the "about Chinese characters" section. I'd like to see some substantive discussion about this so that all the entries you make are done perfectly and well standardized without any need for future cleanup. 24.29.228.33 02:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

when i started adding chu Nom, it was supposed to be simple. but as it progresses i added more info. i am hoping people will improve it. and if they want want it certain format than it is ok as long as it set up orderly. and people can understand and edit the info without trouble. do not get too technical -- people will feel overwhelmed and not participate. because after all. wiki is a community based.

Please sign your comments.[edit]

Hi,

Please sign your discussion-page comments using four tildes: ~~~~.

Thanks!
RuakhTALK 01:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

do i have to. --Cehihin 07:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I don't know how you define "have to". Editors are supposed to sign their comments, but we don't have SWAT teams ready to invade the homes of the non-compliant. :-P   —RuakhTALK 18:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

you funny. is there not a robot to add it? --Cehihin 01:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Citations[edit]

When you create a Citations page, please include citations. See Citations:listen for an example. Links are not citations. --EncycloPetey 07:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. --Cehihin 07:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Vietnam language[edit]

What do you mean by Category:Vietnam language and Category:Viet language? Are they not the same language as Category:Vietnamese language? I have never heard of "Vietnam language" or "Viet language". —Stephen 08:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

'Nam is diverse with many languages.
If that’s what you mean, the English is "languages of Vietnam", not Vietnam language or Viet language. It is possible to say "Viet language" (informal, same as Vietnamese language), but Vietnam language is ungrammatical. —Stephen 09:02, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
In fact, we already have the correct category Category:Languages of Vietnam. —Stephen 09:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. --Cehihin 08:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Template:vi-hantu[edit]

The template should not be putting entries in Category:Vietnamese language, that is only for categories or maybe a few words directly related to the language itself.

The template itself must only be in Category:Vietnamese templates, not in any content category.

And please pay attention to not having any extra whitespace or line breaks, they will show up in entries using the template. Robert Ullmann 15:46, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. --Cehihin 19:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
good. protected now for sysop-only, to keep from adding extra linebreaks etc. Robert Ullmann 00:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

why did you reverted it? and feel free to explain "multiple bad edits". who are sysops? what are the qualifications? --Cehihin 05:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

You added in Category:Vietnamese templates, you added in line breaks that must not be there, you put the template in the category. When I fixed it, you undid the fixes, breaking it again. Just leave it, if you want it to work differently, ask someone who knows the details of how templates work. Robert Ullmann 17:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

contradicting. 'You added in Category:Vietnamese templates' 'The template itself must only be in Category:Vietnamese templates'. how is that bad? 'you added in line breaks that must not be there' I check and there were none. please double check. 'you put the template in the category' I am a wikinoob. thanks for teaching me. 'ask someone who knows the details of how templates work' again. I do not know any. that is why I asked for the sysops. if you know any. ask them to join our discussion. we need another POV. --Cehihin 07:01, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

<nowiki/> ({{wlink|{{{1}}}}})}}
<noinclude>
For usage, see the [[Template talk:{{PAGENAME}}|discussion page]].
(single parameter is the modern script)
[[Category:Vietnamese templates]]
</noinclude>
<includeonly>[[Category:Vietnamese Han tu]]</includeonly>

There is a unwanted linebreak after the first line, before the noinclude tag; there is another one in between the /noinclude and includeonly tags. My edit removed both, as I had previously, only to have you add them again. The template "language" is code, it may not look pretty when done correctly. In particular, you can't just list out categories on separate lines with lots of nice whitespace as you did previously. I've had to fix this in your edits of this template FOUR times. 15:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

The template "language" is code, it may not look pretty when done [in]correctly. may I see proofs/examples/pictures/links of these codes in action. I've had to fix this in your edits of this template FOUR times. before. I know what you mean but now I am confuse. In particular, you can't just list out categories on separate lines with lots of nice whitespace as you did previously. why not? I am trying to make it legible and neat. all of the contributions to the vi-hantu are useful. and there is not any vandalism. --Cehihin 07:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

now. I know what you mean. can I be a sysop? --Cehihin 00:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

people learn by doing. you locked Template:vi-hantu without explaining. --Cehihin 05:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

New nom[edit]

Here is a new one for you to create, if you would like: 𣴓 (I think made from plus ). 24.29.228.33 21:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. http://nomfoundation.org/nomdb/nom_details.php?codepoint=23d13&img=1 --Cehihin 05:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

br[edit]

For wikisyntax, that should be <br/>. This is different from HTML. --EncycloPetey 06:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

what is the different? --Cehihin 01:27, 27 September 2008 (UTC)