User talk:MK

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Useful links[edit]

Here are some Wiktionary links that you may find useful. —Stephen 15:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. BTW, I noticed someone ( who wrote you a message on your talk page (after mine). I just wanted to say that I'm not the same person. --MK 22:04, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I know. It’s not an uncommon response, unfortunately. —Stephen 11:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

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Arabic vowels[edit]

Please note that you cannot use double vowel points in Arabic here in Wiktionary. The reason is a technical problem with the wiki software concerning normalization. When you type two Arabic vowel points, such as shadda fatha and then save it, the wiki software changes it to fatha shadda, which is in the wrong order. Some fonts are able to display both orders correct, with the fatha above the shadda, but most fonts, at least those used in the West, can only handle shadda fatha correctly, and the opposite order either puts the fatha in the middle of the shadda like a crossthough, or it puts the fatha below the shadda, which looks like shadda kasra. The developers have been aware of this problem for over a year but have not been able to correct it. For this reason, you can put shadda or fatha/kasra/dhamma, but not both. The same applies to all combinations of Arabic pointing, and they will be improperly reversed if you put them.

An example of shadda + fatha:

Template:ARchar. —Stephen 15:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
This looks like a font bug rather than a Mediawiki bug. So using these combinations will not give wrong strings, but they might be poorly rendered depending on what fonts and font shaper the user has. --Moyogo 12:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
No, it is not a font bug. It does not matter what font you use, with one exception. There are a small number of fonts (such as "Arabic Typesetting", which I have) which have been designed to display compound vowels correctly regardless of which way they are typed. Very few fonts are made that way, and the reason is that shadda ALWAYS precedes fatha, kasra, dhamma. The only reason a small number of fonts are designed to allow either order is to avoid problems due to typos. —Stephen 22:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)