User talk:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M

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Proposal: Locative and Number Variants - 2nd declension examples[edit]

Introduction[edit]

Many paradigms require a variant template that displays the locative. Currently, that means the same paradigm will have at least two templates:

  1. Declined without Locative
  2. Declined with Locative

Furthermore, many paradigms require up to three variant templates based on which numbers are displayed:

  1. Singular & Plural
  2. Singular Only
  3. Plural Only

Theoretically, this means there are up to six variant templates:

  1. Singular & Plural without Locative - e.g. most common nouns
  2. Singular Only without Locative - e.g. names of individuals
  3. Plural Only without Locative - e.g. common nouns that take only the plural
  4. Singular & Plural with Locative - e.g. common nouns with locative connotations
  5. Singular Only with Locative - e.g. names of cities
  6. Plural Only with Locative - e.g. names of cities that take the plural

It seems to make more sense to have a single template for each paradigm. This is possible if we indicate variants systematically using optional named parameters.


Two Approaches[edit]

I have designed two separate proposals in order to show what what is possible. I prefer the first proposal, but I am amenable to feedback based on what is better for editors. In the first proposal, we use a single named parameter called "options" to handle all six number/loc variations. In the second proposal, we use two named parameters to handle the locative and number variations separately.

Proposal #1: One named parameter[edit]

This proposal sacrifices perspicuity for brevity.

For examples, see below.

  1. Singular & Plural without Locative - (this is the default)
  2. Singular Only without Locative - |options=S (S means singular-only)
  3. Plural Only without Locative - |options=P (P means plural-only)
  4. Singular & Plural with Locative - |options=L (L means "display the locative")
  5. Singular Only with Locative - |options=SL
  6. Plural Only with Locative - |options=PL


Proposal #2: Two named parameters[edit]

This proposal sacrifices brevity for perspicuity.

For examples, see my other example page here.

  1. Singular & Plural without Locative - (this is the default)
  2. Singular Only without Locative - |number=singular
  3. Plural Only without Locative - |number=plural
  4. Singular & Plural with Locative - |loc-include=yes
  5. Singular Only with Locative - |loc-include=yes|number=singular
  6. Plural Only with Locative - |loc-include=yes|number=plural

Examples without Locative[edit]

In my proposal, all templates configured to display the Singular & Plural without Locative case by default.


Example 1 : Singular & Plural[edit]

Example noun: dominus m (genitive dominī); second declension lord, master.

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|domin}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number Template:singular Template:plural
nominative dominus dominī
genitive dominī dominōrum
dative dominō dominīs
accusative dominum dominōs
ablative dominō dominīs
vocative domine dominī


Example 2 : Singular Only[edit]

Example noun: Brūtus m (genitive Brūtī); second declension (cognomen).


{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|Brut|Brūt|options=S}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number Template:singular
nominative Brūtus
genitive Brūtī
dative Brūtō
accusative Brūtum
ablative Brūtō
vocative Brūte


Example 3 : Plural Only[edit]

Example noun: Module error children.

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|liber|līber|options=P}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number Template:plural
nominative līberī
genitive līberōrum
dative līberīs
accusative līberōs
ablative līberīs
vocative līberī


Examples with Locative[edit]

Example 4 : Singular & Plural[edit]

Example noun: humus f (genitive humī); second declension earth, ground

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|hum|options=L}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number Template:singular Template:plural
nominative humus humī
genitive humī humōrum
dative humō humīs
accusative humum humōs
ablative humō humīs
vocative hume humī
locative humī humīs


Example 5 : Singular Only[edit]

Example noun: Corinthus f (genitive Corinthī); second declension city of Corinth

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|Corinth|options=SL}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number Template:singular
nominative Corinthus
genitive Corinthī
dative Corinthō
accusative Corinthum
ablative Corinthō
vocative Corinthe
locative Corinthī


Example 6 : Plural Only[edit]

Example noun: Module error city of Pompeii

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|Pompei|options=PL}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number Template:plural
nominative Pompeiī
genitive Pompeiōrum
dative Pompeiīs
accusative Pompeiōs
ablative Pompeiīs
vocative Pompeiī
locative Pompeiīs


Discussion[edit]

Please discuss this issue on the Latin declension template page.