User talk:Rukhabot/2012

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July 2012[edit]

Interwiki error[edit]

You are creating wrong interwiki links concerning apostrophes. Please fix them.

  • Interwiki link duplications: [1]
  • Interwiki links in a redirect: [2]

TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 06:04, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your comments.
Regarding the "duplications": The problem is that the entry already contained bad interwiki links. The bot adds the correct ones, and leaves the incorrect ones alone. This isn't ideal — ideally it would remove the previously-existing bad links — but I think it's fine for now. (I'll write a separate bot-task later to deal with bad interwiki-links.)
Regarding the redirects: This is intended behavior; it was discussed at the Grease pit, and other editors agreed with me that although such interwikis are not very useful/important, there's no reason not to have them. Could you explain why you consider them to be wrong?
Thanks again,
RuakhTALK 11:43, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Last night I ran a task to fix all pre-existing bad interwikis: [3][4][5]. —Rukhabot 14:32, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I understand. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Interwikis to redirects can be useful and educating. What is an incorrect/alternative spelling in one language can be a correct spelling in another or a different opinion may exist on the same language and word. Thanks for addressing interwikis, I was getting worried about them. --Anatoli (обсудить) 00:29, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Interwikis for redirects are potentially useful for reading up on how other Wiktionaries deal with entries that we have as redirects. For example, I could overwrite a redirect with 'real' content and double check that content against another language that I can understand sufficiently well. Mglovesfun (talk) 00:06, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012[edit]

interwiki order[edit]

Why Rukhabot doesn't add interwikis in alphabetical order? Example: [6]. Maro 18:11, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

It attempts to add them in alphabetical order by language code, as documented at Wiktionary:Links#Interwiki links and m:Interwiki sorting order (in that MediaWiki:Interwiki config-sorting order does not exist). If the existing interwiki-links are not in that order, then this can go awry. (In the diff that you link to, the bot put mg before pl; cy and eu before fi; and ta at the end.)
If you're interested in the order of interwiki-links, you may wish to participate in a current discussion of that subject, at Wiktionary:Grease pit/2012/August#Order of interwikis.
RuakhTALK 18:41, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
The existing interwiki links were in the correct order. Interwicket (and other bots) has been adding interwikis in the order by language name. Your bot has added them in a chaotic order. Maro 21:20, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
I still don't know what "the correct order" is. As soon as one is determined — at Wiktionary:Grease pit/2012/August#Order of interwikis. — I'll modify my bot to use it.—RuakhTALK 21:36, 4 August 2012 (UTC)