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fast[edit]

Thanks. Keyboard troubles. DCDuring TALK 11:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I suspected as much, having done similar things myself in the past. Thryduulf 14:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation exceptions[edit]

We seem to be losing ground; in the last 3 weeks, the number has gone from 3962 to 4020, excluding things that AF will fix. I haven't changed the flag rules in that time.

One thing may be entries that AF could partly fix, so were not counted; now that it has done what it can, the remainder shows in the count. I'm not sure how many of these there are, but certainly some.

I'm wondering how many are new entries? Or newly added pronunciation information with problems? Robert Ullmann 14:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, re Asia: I think we need more parameters in the template? then it can do 'or' or comma Robert Ullmann 14:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree about multiple parameters in Rhymes, if AF could combine them it would remove at least some non-templated rhymes hits from the exceptions list (e.g. entries like Asia). Thryduulf 14:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Did this. Will run the exceptions list a bit later with the new rules. See Asia. Robert Ullmann 13:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
And AF rule is working correctly in various cases; agley and shivaree. ☺ Robert Ullmann 13:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Have you tried it with the {{rhymes|foo}} ''or'' {{rhymes|bar}} formatting I was using?
I've updated the documentation at template talk:rhymes btw. Thryduulf 13:23, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
I thought I did that. (I'll go remove the one line I added ;-). I re-ran the list, allowing 1000 to be re-checked and included. It uses the new (rhymes etc) rules. I still need to have AF handle a lot more of the {a} cases for Min Nan (mostly at the end of the "remains" list. It doesn't combine {rhymes} or {rhymes}, just the cases where they are (still) links. Robert Ullmann 14:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

What do you think of removing lines like:

* [[SAMPA]]: //

as the don't add anything? Yes, they say "SAMPA not provided (yet)", but then the absence of the line does the same. Ditto IPA, AHD, and a couple of very odd cases of enPR. At some point I can do some version of the rhymes-but-no-IPA report to list entries with non-blank pronunciation sections that lack IPA. In the meantime lines like the above are pretty useless.

I could either have AF remove them from the entries, or simply leave them out of the this report. Robert Ullmann 10:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

If there is no actual pronunciation given in the section, i.e. it just has * [[SAMPA]]: // or similar then replace it with {{rfp|<type>}}, where <type> is whichever of IPA, SAMPA and enPR was being requested. If there is an obvious region statement (e.g. an {{a}} template, or something AF would convert to such) then put that as a comment in the rfp. I watch Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Requests_for_pronunciation so I'll add the ones I can as they appear.
If there one or more forms of pronunciation given, then just remove the empty line(s) and we can pick it up later with a report as you suggest. Thryduulf 14:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
It is possible to code that (although trying to pick up {a} is pointless, none of these have it that I've seen ;-). I'm thinking a bit simpler, given the cases I've looked at:
  • if * [[IPA]]: // replace with {{rfp|lang=xx}}
  • if SAMPA or AHD, elide the line (IPA is almost always present, and sometimes even given)
see mozzarella for one of the typical cases, they have ad hoc pronunciations or unmarked AHD (or pseudo-AHD). I think the primary objective is to get IPA in these. Yes? At vulcanologist it would simply remove the blank SAMPA line for now. Robert Ullmann 15:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the primary goal is to have at least one correct IPA pronunciation in all the entries, SAMPA and enPR are bonuses. If there is IPA present, then just remove the problem lines, otherwise add an rfp.
I'll fix the two you linked to shortly, but note the IPA in "vulcanologist" is actually for "*vulcanlogical" (which afaict from a quick google) is a non-existant word! Thryduulf 15:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I ran the report again with some rule changes (this and some better replace-in ops for {a}), number of entries that would be fixed by AF went up by 750, but other problems only down about 300. We are losing ground somewhere ... Anyway, plenty to munch on. Robert Ullmann 18:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm finding some entries that have /aɪpiːeɪ/ /<tt>s{mp@</tt>/. You fixed earlier those that were like this but also had enPR, but it seems those without got overlooked. Thryduulf 20:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
yes, the rule is looking for all three; I can look at the cases with two; tell me if you happen to note any that are not IPA and SAMPA. I (AF) is fixing the // cases, see accompanable and megalopolitan. THink this is just about right, as they typically have ad hoc pronunciation and need IPA. (Note that to see them in the "recentchangeslinked" page, you have to "Show bots" ;-) Robert Ullmann 15:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Where is the current list of articles neding pronunciation attention? I have some time this week (unless I get a call for a job I'm waiting to hear about), and could help reduce the number of problem entries. I took a wiki-break for most of October, but now feel rejuvenated. --EncycloPetey 20:26, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

User:Robert Ullmann/Pronunciation exceptions. Thryduulf 20:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm headed out right now, but will start on "l-z" later today. (I like to work from the middle of alphabetical lists because most folks start at "a") --EncycloPetey 20:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

fifth[edit]

I can't say I've ever heard the alternative pronunciation in the US, except in specific urban and African-American dialects. --EncycloPetey 23:41, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I hear it in lazy speech on this side of the Atlantic. I'll adjust the labels and write a quick usage note. Thryduulf 11:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Really? To me "fith" sounds perfectly normal. ("Fitty" sounds urban/AA, though.) —RuakhTALK 14:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Conversation continues at Wiktionary:Tea room#fifth. Thryduulf 14:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

dare[edit]

If that's what the IPA chart says, I suggest it should be changed. As it is, the pronunciation given doesn't even match the rhyme template (Rhymes:English:-eə(r) is a redirect to Rhymes:English:-ɛə(r))! As for the diphthong...it is true that RP used to be given as /eə/ for this vowel. However, as the Wikipedia entry notes, "/eə/ as in square is sometimes written /ɛə/, and is also sometimes treated as a long monophthong /ɛː/". This is the format used by Oxford for all their dictionaries, and also by Chambers (they don't use IPA, but they denote the same sound). This is also how we write the diphthong at Wiktionary:IPA_pronunciation_key. The other advantage is that it's much closer to actual pronunciation. Ƿidsiþ 19:29, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know which more accurately represents the sound, but we should use whatever does - with one caveat we must use the same transcription as the pronunciation key we link to uses, to do otherwise would be unfair (imho) to users who are not familiar with IPA. What other dictionaries use is an argument that could be used in support of changing the pronunciation key, but are not relevant to what appears in our entries. It is the same with /a/ vs /æ/, changing the pronunciation key must come before changing entries. Thryduulf 20:08, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that w:IPA_chart_for_English (which our IPAs link to) and Wiktionary:International Phonetic Alphabet (our own version) say different things. Maybe we should bring this to the attention of the Beer Parlour. Ƿidsiþ 20:47, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Wiktionary:IPA pronunciation key Is a more useful resource for the link target than the page you point to, but the Wikipedia chart for different English dialects is even more useful than either of our pages, and we should probably take a copy and modify it for our needs, linking to our existing pages. The lang= parameter of the {{IPA}} template makes it possible to direct users to an appropriate chart for the language concerned. This is a Beer Parlour type discussion though. Thryduulf 23:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

vice versa[edit]

You had tagged this in March. Was this ever discussed in TR? The pronunciation section is messy. DCDuring TALK 19:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Templating hyphenation[edit]

I was wondering why AF seemed to not find these cases; it was only adding the hyphenation template when it looked at an entry for some other reason. Found it, a missing flag on a call that was causing the prescreen to miss them. So now it is finding them directly, and fixing a bunch. Just FYI. Robert Ullmann 11:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

long time no see[edit]

Thryduulf! Prin fyth ydw i’n dy weld yma mwyach… (Ond gwelaf dy fod yn dal i gyfrannu o adeg i adeg.) Sut mae pethau? Ac sut wyt ti?  (u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 03:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

halo[edit]

I really appreciate your signature in Meta. I am not very adept at coding. I really want to represent the unity of the individual Projects and my relationship to them by having a unified signature across Projects that cross-references the principal Projects that I am working within. Wikipedia (ω), Wikiversity (ॐ), Wiktionary (Æ) will be appropriate at this time. I would like my name to default to my Wikipedia User Page and for each of my Project talk pages in turn I would like ω ॐ Æ. I really wanted the W that is two V overlapped but for the life of me I couldn't track it. I am not asking you to do it for me, but some salient pointers would be lovely. I find the manuals for coding really dense and opaque.
Thanking you in anticipation
B9 hummingbird hovering 09:20, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

That was excellent and gee I appreciate your time and assistance. Please contact me directly if you ever need assistance with anything.
Respectfully
B9 hummingbird hovering 13:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello mate. Would you like to go the Last Post? —This unsigned comment was added by 86.141.220.30 (talkcontribs).

I'm sorry, but I've got no idea what you are asking? Thryduulf 21:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

chimpanzee and IPA stress[edit]

I've noticed quite a number of errors in your recent IPA edits, particularly when it comes to marking stress. As a good example, I have never heard the primary stress in chimpanzee places on the first syllable. Neither do the several dictionaries I've checked place the primary stress on the first syllable, although they place a secondary strsss there. Likewise beheld is stressed on the second syllable, not the first. Also, in orangutan, you eliminated the second US IPA calling it a duplicate, when in fact it was a different pronunciation. Further, in marigold and boozer you marked the syllable breaks according to hyphenation standards rather than according to pronunciation. Finally, in carnage you added a Chinese tone symbol when you meant to add an inverted ɹ. All this suggests you're not quite familiar enough with IPA to be making those kinds of edits. --EncycloPetey 15:02, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Thrydullf[edit]

On w:User:Thryduulf/Contact U imply that we may correct spellings on your pages. i just decided to w:WP:Be bold and fix what were probably URL errors on commons:User:Thryduulf and commons:User talk:Thryduulf. Before i did so though, someone followed one those "broken" links. As such, U may want to react to the page linked to in this section title.

On a side topic, could U please read the latest version of m:Wiktionary/logo/refresh#nl.wiktionary_vote? Warmest Regards, :)--thecurran Speak your mind my past 06:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

inflection/form of[edit]

Hi Thryduulf. In banker you changed the Danish entry to use {{inflection of}} instead of {{form of}}, with the comment "to match Norwegian and Swedish entries on this page". I see your point, but on the other side it doesn't match with the other Danish noun forms. If it is decided that Danish, Norwegian and Swedish must be coordinated, and a form is decided, then a bot can make the changes. For now I'm going to revert your edit, because I feel that the consistency of Danish noun forms has preference. – Leo Laursen – (talk · contribs) 18:08, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Syntax and pronunciation[edit]

Top notch cleanup work, well done! Mglovesfun (talk) 16:48, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Thryduulf 18:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

burka[edit]

I moved back the Russian translation where it belongs - it is correct, no need for further checking, my comment refers to the false friend - бурка (búrka) in Russian means a different type of male clothing, described in sense 2. --Anatoli 23:25, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Hyphenation[edit]

I don't understand why you're using {{hyphenation}} like this. This is not what it's to be used for. You now have a lot of cleanup to fix those edits. --EncycloPetey 15:58, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

/ˈɵɹiːd.(ʍ)ʌlf/ or /ˈθɹiːd.(ʍ)ʌlf/[edit]

ɵ is a vowel - θ is a consonant. Just a mix up? — [ R·I·C ] opiaterein — 18:12, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Indeed a mixup, Thryduulf starts with a consonant so /θ/ is correct (the SAMPA Template:X-SAMPAchar is and was correct the IPA wasn't but now is). Thank you for the headsup - it's been there since 9 June 2008 <embarrased smiley>. Thryduulf 21:46, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
ɵ's not a very common vowel, so I think if anyone else had noticed it, they would've brought it up :D — [ R·I·C ] opiaterein — 22:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

pile[edit]

The pronunciation was as per the OED (and several other modern phonetics books). /aɪ/ is kind of old-fashioned now; many authorities feel /ʌɪ/ is closer to what people in Britain actually say. Since the OED adopted it, it's been appearing here too, and it's what I always use. Ƿidsiþ 14:18, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

The pronunciation guides at w:SAMPA chart for English, w:IPA chart for English dialects and Wiktionary:English pronunciation key however all note that the vowel sound in words like pile is transcribed as /aɪ/ (or Template:X-SAMPAchar). Only the first of these mentions /ʌɪ/ at all, and is then only in a footnote about syllable separation and a reference discussing Canadian pronunciation. w:Help:IPA conventions for English#Vowels shows that of the major dictionaries, only the OED 3 UK edition uses /ʌɪ/, with Wikipedia following all the others in using /aɪ/. If you wish to change to using /ʌɪ/ for pronunciations on Wiktionary, then first you need to get consensus to include it somewhere that users unfamiliar with IPA will be able to find out what it means - w:IPA chart for English dialects is where the IPA template currently directs users. Using a dipthong that the pronunciation guide we link to doesn't note the existence of is not at all useful for our readers. Thryduulf 15:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I take your point, although arguably it's no less useful than transcribing a sound which no one actually uses outside of the Queen's Speech. I have tried to thrash this out before (Wiktionary_talk:Pronunciation#UK_pronunciations), but so far there doesn't seem to be much consensus...about anything... Ƿidsiþ 15:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I think you should go ahead and mark /æ/ and /a/, and /aɪ/ and /ʌɪ/ (and the SAMPA equivalents) as alternatives on the pronunciation charts, along with a reference/footnote explaining the difference is primarily temporal. Make a talk page post (on one of the charts and link to it on the other talk pages) explaining what you've done and why you've done it. Post a link about it at Wiktionary_talk:Pronunciation and maybe the BP too. If the change sticks (and I at least will support you) then I think we can safely start using them for pronunciations marked (UK), but not for those marked (Received Pronunciation) (although I've generally been changing (Received Pronunciation) to (UK) as I come across them). Thryduulf 15:31, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

That seems a good idea. I'll do that, thanks. Ƿidsiþ 16:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

English words spelled with...[edit]

Unfortunately {{charactercat}} is designed for English terms spelled with [] on the grounds that multi-word phrases are also allowed. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:21, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Ah, sorry. I'll go through and fix any that you or others haven't shortly. Thryduulf 13:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Cymraeg[edit]

Hi! Shoudn't be there /r/ instead of /ɹ/? I can clearly hear /r/ in the audio file.

Appendix:Welsh pronunciation is confusing. In the table I can read that English equivalent of Welsh r is "r in right but trilled", but below in the "Consonants" section: "R is the same as English R as in right". So if it's trilled it cannot be the same as English alveolar approximant. Maro 18:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

That appendix really is confusing! I was taught that Welsh "R" is the same as English "R in right" but that Welsh "Rh" was trilled and/or aspirated (I've heard both from different people!), although this was not from a technical perspective. I can't hear the audio file that well, and so I based it on what I have most frequently heard from Welsh speakers in the Swansea area (mainly second language, but some first language speakers too). There has been a lot of English influence in that part of south Wales, and it would not surprise me to learn that in mid/north Wales the pronunciation was less close to the English. All that said, if you feel that /r/ instead of /ɹ/ better represents the audio/"standard" pronunciation then go ahead and change it (just reference this conversation in the edit summary if you feel the need to justify the change). Thryduulf (talk) 18:38, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if /r/ better represents standard pronunciation. I won't change it because I don't speak Welsh, and you speak better than I :). Secondly, the audio file could be wrong (I don't know). And it's possible that audio pronunciation is different from standard pronunciation.
I think it's because Welsh is under a strong English influence and Welsh-speaking people use Welsh as their second language and their pronunciation is similar to English... (alveolar approximant for "r")
Wikipedia says there is an alveolar trill in Welsh and mention nothing about alveolar approximant. But I think Wikipedia is not a reliable source and I don't trust it :).
Sorry for late answer, I am on a wiki-break. Maro 15:02, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Mandarin etymology formatting re 芭蕾舞 et al[edit]

Hello. Please do not change the etymology formatting for Mandarin entries as they are completely different to other languages for a variety of complex reasons. Thank you. ---> Tooironic 00:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

m8[edit]

Hi Thryduulf, recently User:EncycloPetey deleted my anon edits because they weren't cited. Usenet was suggested as a good source to find quotations for txtspk. Do you know of a good search engine for Usenet? I'm trying with Google Groups atm, but I don't think all of them are Usenet pages - is this a problem? --Mat200 07:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Singleton brackets[edit]

Sorry that you've had to pick up stuff from my dirt tray - I resolve to try much harder in future :) —Saltmarshαπάντηση 14:35, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Mismatched brackets are very easy to miss, hence the many thousands of entries in the cleanup list - you're in good company :) Thryduulf (talk) 14:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Rhymes:French:-ɛːʀ[edit]

I don't know if French uses /ɛː/. FWIW we prefer ʁ over ʀ, but that's a norm not a rule. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

All I've been doing is changing ε (U+3B5) to ɛ (U+25B). I've not changed anything else about the rhymes - anything that used ʀ still does. I have insuffcient knowledge to hold an opinion about French pronunciations so if you see anything you think is wrong go ahead and change it. Thryduulf (talk) 12:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Nah I was just waffling (lol). Mglovesfun (talk) 12:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Votes/2010-06/Setting lang attribute for transliterations[edit]

Hi, you voted in support of this proposal, but new information has come up (see the vote page, in the "Oppose" section) that might make you want to reconsider.​—msh210 (talk) 15:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Usenet cites[edit]

Hi Thryduulf. Thank you for the advice and the corrections in lolspeak. --ColdWind 20:24, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Template:a[edit]

Thanks, I explored that template a bit and came to the (wrong) conclusion that it was only for English. My bad... Is there a list somewhere of all the valid codes? Neither the documentation nor the sourcecode are any help... — ˈzɪzɨvə 00:34, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Please don't drink and edit[edit]

Hullo. Yesterday I added[1] the alternative forms of brush-off. I think you must have been Saturday-night drunk when you brushed my edit off and deleted these alternative forms[2] while claiming "restore alternative forms".

Good thing I'm back on this word to check the status of its plural (one alternative gives a plural when this one pretends to be uncountable) and noticed the puddle of vomit.

I think it's okay to edit wiki on a Saturday evening. I think it's okay to get drunk on a Saturday night. But I don't, I say, I don't think it's okay that you do both at the same time, son. 62.147.9.42 09:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I accept I was in the wrong with that edit and I've reverted it (the definition line was too heavily linked though). I wasn't editing drunk though, so I can only presume it was tiredness that caused me to make the error. Thryduulf (talk) 09:40, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

smattering[edit]

I don't, but you may, wish to be bold. (See the rfv-pronunciation tag.)​—msh210 (talk) 16:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I've been bold per your comments re the rfv-pronunciation tag. Thryduulf (talk) 22:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

familiar[edit]

Huh? I've corrected the IPA. What we had wasn't even close to correct. --EncycloPetey 22:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I didn't think it looked like anything I'd heard, but I'm not awake enough to be certain so I just added the second UK pronunciation (the one you've kept) and made a note to myself to come back and look at it more when I have the time and energy. You've saved me the job! Thryduulf (talk) 22:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Trivia[edit]

FWIW, Here's the list of current pages with Trivia sections. --Bequw τ 17:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

mismatch and pronunciation exceptions[edit]

I re-ran both this morning, with the existing code. I didn't review and revise the rules as usual, no time today. I will have limited access to the net for a little while (maybe 10 days) so can't do anything else for a bit. If you see this and want something, I might have time tonight, but probably not; do ask and I will see when I can get to it. Cheers, Robert Ullmann 12:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Gutenburg rankings[edit]

At Wiktionary talk:About English#Placement of Gutenberg rankings, do you think Usage notes fits the bill? I was going to request a FF to make the change but I wasn't sure if you approved of that header. Cheers --Bequw τ 21:58, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Aeschylus[edit]

No, really? You put the stress on the wrong syllable (the original was right) and changed the pronunciation to an incorrect one. --EncycloPetey 17:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

characters in IPA templates[edit]

See User:Robert Ullmann/IPAchars. Robert Ullmann 08:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Beginner's guide to the English Wiktionary for experienced Wikipedians[edit]

Something you might want to add is technical differences between the two sites; for example, I've never seen a Wikipedia user talk page that works like Yair rand's, which works on LiquidThreads. Nyttend 03:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

You may also want to note that it's pointless to request fixes for minor errors on policy pages, because even the addition of two necessary commas gets reverted. Nyttend 13:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

ran Pronunciations report[edit]

here User:Robert Ullmann/Pronunciation exceptions as usual. I can now run it fairly routinely, on a dump < 8 hours old. Robert Ullmann 14:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

[3][edit]

? --Yair rand (talk) 23:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

It seems that substing {{etyl}} when the "don't categorise" parameter is set breaks very horribly. I think I've now fixed all the crap it left in the entry. It'll be worth noting at the template talk and/or grease pit though to see if anyone can stop it breaking in that manner (I haven't time currently). Thryduulf (talk) 01:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Stratford panoramas[edit]

Hello - just wanted to say that I like your panoramic photos of Stratford station. Will you be doing another when the new low-level platforms are open? That would be cool! Cheers, -- Earle Martin 03:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC) (best place for a reply is my en.wp user talk, same name)

clean sweep[edit]

Hello Thryduulf -- I just came across this entry that you created in February. Very nice work! Regards -- Ghost of WikiPedant 22:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Incongruous[edit]

Hi. I see you added the RP pronunciation for incongruous, but the pronunciations given were /ˈɪn.cɒn.ɡɹʊu.ʌs/ and /ˈɪn.cɒŋ.ɹʊu.ʌs/. I changed this to /ˈɪn.kɒn.ɡɹʊu.ʌs/ and /ˈɪn.kɒŋ.ɹʊu.ʌs/, because I don't think it's pronounced with a [c] in any type of English. I'm putting this message here because, looking through the history, you said that the IPA was correct. CntRational 13:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

soutpiel[edit]

Changed to Afrikaans. DCDuring TALK 03:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Manchester meetup[edit]

Newsflash! The location of this weekend's Manchester meetup has been moved back to Wetherspoons on Princess Street - the Ducie Arms isn't open on Sundays! Can you believe that?! Bazonka (talk) 18:02, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Your subpages for noun and verb forms[edit]

Can these be deleted? We have the WT:ACCEL script for these, which is more accurate and up to date anyway, so you probably don't really need them. —CodeCat 18:43, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, go ahead. They're obsolete these days. Thryduulf (talk) 20:26, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

ticket[edit]

Hello, can the word ticket be pronounced /ˈtɪkɛt/ ? 162.246.52.108 16:40, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

If you used that pronunciation people would know what you mean, but outside of poetry or music (where it might be used for purposes of rhythm or rhyme), it would sound odd and may mark you as a non-native speaker. Thryduulf (talk) 20:48, 31 August 2014 (UTC)