User talk:Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas

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--Neskaya talk 19:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at the way I formatted your derived terms, staying within our formatting standards, for which see WT:ELE. The closer you can stay to the standards the less likely are changes which may not do justice to your thoughts. DCDuring TALK 00:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

eagle (more)[edit]

Be very careful not to use image placement directives or pixel size when including images. Please pay closer attention to heading names in WT:ELE. --Connel MacKenzie 23:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for catching all of our grammatical mistakes on this page. However, I thought I'd let you know that I reverted your most recent edit. The reason being that the example given must match the syntax given before it, otherwise it makes for a very confusing mistake. Secondly, there is really no need to specify the language in this case, as it can be inferred from the context. Any questions, feel free to ask. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 19:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wayne, I have moved the usage note you added to cut of one's jib to the talk page, usage notes are generally for noting how the word/phrase is generally used, connotations etc., whereas the Citations page would be used for examples of it's actual usage. - [The]DaveRoss 21:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

throw[edit]

Further comments on word throw

The initial throw (noun) is the forceful throwing down (verb 1, etymology 1) of the clay mass onto the potters' wheel. Positioning of the clay by (1) centering and shaping, then (2) shaping and forming the clay into an object, both accord with verb sense 4 etymology 1. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas 18:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Noun sense 4 is too broad, I believe, and the useage example appears to be closer to a diferent noun sense that denotes throwing down or dropping payment in order to give or submit or purchase the entrance fee from a ticket seller. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas 18:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seevral times on this page you have added "1896, Universal Dictionary of the English Language [UDEL], v3 p3429" Is this intended to be a reference? If so, it should appear in the References section, not between definitions. The only information that should appear between definitions are constructed example sentences or quotations demonstrating use of the particular sense. --EncycloPetey 02:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Thanks for your contributions. You might want to take a look at Wiktionary:Quotations. :-)

RuakhTALK 02:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure this is not a mis-spelling of copasetic? - Amgine/talk 03:40, 14 August 2008 (UTC). YOU ARE (WERE) CORRECT. I reverted to the known spelling. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas 17:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have adjusted the quotes format to match our standards. We don't list sources of quotations in the References section; we list them immediately before the relvant quote. Also, we don't italicize direct quotations; we only italicize made-up example sentences. Finally, we don't cite other dictionaries. A quotation is only useful if it demonstrates the word as used in the language. Se w:Use–mention distinction. --EncycloPetey 04:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is often easier to follow model pages than to figure things out from the written text in style guides. To that end, I maintain several model pages, including listen and parrot. You can see how these are formatted for more useful help.
We don't cite dictionaries for quotations because they are defining the words (mention) rather than actually making use of them (use). There are some words that seem to only exist in dictionaries, and which never seem to have been used in actual English. This is one of the pitfalls. Also, the quotations are there to serve as primary backing evidence of how the word is used in the language, so that we can adjust definitions (if need be) to match actual usage of words. A dictionary quotation is therefore not as useful for this, because it is a secondary description, and not primary evidence. Dictionaries are one step removed from the actual language. --EncycloPetey 05:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

vandalism[edit]

Vandalism of this nature may be unusual at Wiktionary, but I'm a Wikipedia veterans, and I've hunted more complicated cases of massive vandalism at Wikinews. It's not even hard to fix, and doesn't even make me flinch anymore :p It's the sneaky stuff like this one has to watch for. Circeus 16:56, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

delete[edit]

i'm sorry for the error in your user page. I made a mistake. I rollbacked my edit immediately. --Diuturno 18:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: delete, your accidental edit[edit]

Thanks for telling me, but I see nothing awry, so it's okay. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas 19:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC) (9-19-08, 2:26pm CDT)[reply]

"dead dog" failed RfD. It can be summarily deleted, as I did. If you have reason to think that we did not adhere to our rules in deleting it or that there is new information that would lead us to a different conclusion, please let me know so that I could advise you on how to proceed. Feel free to contact anyone else who you feel might be better able to help than I. DCDuring TALK 04:16, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wayne -- Thanks for adding that nice quotation, which is telling and from a first-rate source. My own practice, when adding quotations from public domain classics like this, is not to include publisher's information and page numbers, since there are so many editions and the quotation is easily verified online. All you really needed, IMHO, was this:

1853, Herman Melville, "Bartleby, the Scrivener,"

I appreciate your contributions. -- WikiPedant 17:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

heart delinking[edit]

Why?msh210 18:48, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder why as well. The links seemed reasonable to me. -- WikiPedant 16:08, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quotations, references, and templates[edit]

This is a citation I want to save but cannot from a borrowed computer. I'll remove it asap. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas 16:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC) "Stick to one's guns" Military expression indicating bravery, diligence, and persistence of gunners faithfully attending their cannons under fire. [Removed, not asap] Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas 17:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your quotation does not use the term being defined. SemperBlotto 13:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I removed it. I'll seek a proper quote. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas 17:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC) (13May09 @ 12:29pm)[reply]

"A short chain or ribbon to connect such a pocket to the watch."

   This entry needs a quote. 

Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas 03:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC) (04Jun09, 10:07pm Cent Time Zone)[reply]

quotes[edit]

When you format quotes, please bold only the year/date and not the author. Also, when quoting Shakepeare, please do not use modern spellings unless you provide the modern date when that spelling was used. The earliest manuscripts use a very different spelling, orthography, capitalization, etc. --EncycloPetey 05:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I start by either searching Wikisource to find where the modern quote is (which play, act, etc.), or else I use a hardcopy concordance I own of Shakespeare's works to do this. Then, I use a hardcopy facsimile edition of the First Folio which I own. --EncycloPetey 03:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

dander[edit]

You have entered two distinct senses to "dander", back in 2008[1]:

  • 2. Hair follicles and dead skin shed from mammals; allergen particles originating from mammalian skin and hair.
  • 3. Airborne particles accumulating on and shed from the skin and fur of cats and dogs.

How are the two senses different? I see that the sense two is for mammals, while the sense three is specifically for cats and dogs. Various dictionaries have only one sense. Could we merge the two senses? --Dan Polansky 11:34, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]