User talk:Wikitiki89/Fête's pronunciation questions

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Quebec French[edit]

fête[edit]

Do you know that Quebecers pronounce "fight" for the word fête ? Fête (talk) 17:43, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Honestly the difference between [aɛ̯] and [aɪ̯] is fairly minor. Wikipedia transcribes it as [aɛ̯] but I guess [aɪ̯] would also be acceptable. Only we need to be consistent. --WikiTiki89 18:15, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

hiver[edit]

You hear [i.vɛːʁ], [i.vaɛ̯ʁ] or [i.væːʁ] in the file Media:Fr-hiver-fr CA.ogg ? Fête (talk) 18:31, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I hear [i.vaɛ̯ʁ] when I listen closely, but it almost sounds like [i.væːʁ]. --WikiTiki89 19:02, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

tempête[edit]

You hear [tã.pɛːt] or [tã.paɛ̯t] in the file Media:FR-Tempête (Gaspésie).ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I hear [tɑ̃.paɛ̯t]. Also you don't have to keep starting new sections every time. --WikiTiki89 19:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

tard[edit]

You hear [tɑɔ̯ʁ] or [tɒːʁ] in the file Media:FR-Tard (Gaspésie).ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:40, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I hear [tɑɔ̯ʁ], but I can barely hear the /ʁ/. --WikiTiki89 19:48, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

lézard[edit]

You hear [le.zɑːʁ] or [le.zɒːʁ] in the file Media:Fr-lézard-ca-Montréal.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:54, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I would say [le.zɒːʁ], but you might have to get some second opinions as [ɑ] and [ɒ] are very difficult for me to distinguish. --WikiTiki89 19:59, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

ver[edit]

You hear [vɛːʁ] or [vaɛ̯ʁ] in the file Media:Fr-ver-ca-Montréal.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:03, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I would describe it ~more as [va̯ɛʁ] than [vaɛ̯ʁ], that's why I generally don't like using the breve and prefer [vaɛʁ]. --WikiTiki89 20:06, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

taupe[edit]

You hear [toːp] or [tou̯p] in the file Media:Fr-taupe-ca-Montréal.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:47, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I actually hear [tɔːp] there. --WikiTiki89 17:47, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

brun[edit]

You hear [bʀœ̃] or [bʀɚ̃] in the file Media:Qc-brun.ogg ? Fête (talk) 22:41, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I do hear an R-ish sound but I'm not sure if it is quite [ɚ̃]. --WikiTiki89 19:46, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

pas[edit]

Do you know how Quebeckers pronounce the word pas ? Fête (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Wilson Phung[edit]

You hear /ˈwɪlsən ˌfʌŋ/ or /ˈwɪlsən ˌfɔŋ/ in the file Media:Wilson Phung.ogg ? Fête (talk) 21:57, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

I hear [ˈwɪlsɪːn ˌfʌŋ/]. --WikiTiki89 19:59, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

tempest[edit]

You hear /ˈtɛmpɪst/ or /ˈtɛmpɛst/ in the file Media:En-us-tempest.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:26, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Something like [ˈtɛmpɨst]. --WikiTiki89 20:39, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

demain[edit]

You hear [dømɛ̃] or [dømæ̃] in the file

 ? Fête (talk) 16:35, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

[dømɛ̃] --WikiTiki89 17:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

avant[edit]

You hear [a.vɑ̃] or [a.vɒ̃] in the file Media:Fr-avant.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:12, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

[a.vɒ̃] --WikiTiki89 19:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Wilson[edit]

You hear [wil.sɔn] or [wil.sən] in the file Media:Fr-Normandie-Wilson.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:23, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I think the closest one I can find is [wil.sɞn] --WikiTiki89 19:35, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

package[edit]

You hear [ˈpækɪdʒ] or [ˈpækɛdʒ] in the file Media:En-us-package.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:59, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I hear [ˈpʰæˌkɪtʃ], but the second syllable sounds like it is over enunciated. --WikiTiki89 20:04, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

tête[edit]

You hear [taɛ̯t] or [tɐɪ̯t] in the file Media:FRQC-tête.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

[tɐɪt] --WikiTiki89 20:11, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

un[edit]

You hear [œ̃] or [ɞ̃] in the file Media:Fr-un-fr BE.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Answer me please ! Fête (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I would say something like [ɞ̃]. --WikiTiki89 17:11, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

baleine[edit]

Your hear [ba.lɛ̃ːn] or [ba.leɪ̯n] in the file

 ? Fête (talk) 23:03, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Answer me please ! Fête (talk) 15:25, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Relax, I don't have headphones at work and can't listen to it until I get home. --WikiTiki89 15:38, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
I definitely hear [ba.lẽ-] but then it cuts off. I don't know if there is an [ɪ̯] or even an [n] after that. --WikiTiki89 06:46, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

sayonara[edit]

You hear [sajoːnaɾa] or [sajoːnaɺa] in the file File:Sayonara.ogv ? Fête (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

[sɐˈjoːnɐɾɐ] --WikiTiki89 20:47, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

service[edit]

You hear /ˈsɝvɪs/ or /ˈsɝvəs/ in the file File:En-us-service.ogg ? Fête (talk) 12:24, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Answer me please. Fête (talk) 23:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

[ˈsɝvɪs] --WikiTiki89 05:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Quebec[edit]

Do you live in Quebec ? Fête (talk) 01:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

No, but I have been there many times. --WikiTiki89 05:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

ticket[edit]

Does the word ticket can be pronounced /ˈtɪkɛt/ ? Fête (talk) 17:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

No. /ɛ/ only exists under primary or secondary stress. It is phonemically reduced to /ə/ or /ɪ/ in unstressed syllables. --WikiTiki89 19:42, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

forest[edit]

Does the word forest can be pronounced /ˈfɔrɛst/ ? Fête (talk) 22:45, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

No for the same reason as a above. --WikiTiki89 07:37, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

muffin[edit]

Muffin is pronounced /ˈmʌfɪn/ or /ˈmʌfən/ ? Fête (talk) 20:50, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Could be either. Depends on accent/dialect. --WikiTiki89 20:52, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

welcome[edit]

Does the word welcome can be pronounced /ˈwɛlkʌm/ ? Fête (talk) 21:40, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

The /ʌ/ is reduced to /ə/. --WikiTiki89 07:59, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

interest[edit]

Does the word interest can be pronounced /ˈɪntrɪst/ or /ˈɪntrɛst/ ? Fête (talk) 17:11, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

/ˈɪnt(ə)rɪst/, /ˈɪnt(ə)rəst/, or /ˈɪnt(ə)ˌrɛst/ --WikiTiki89 20:08, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

o'clock[edit]

Does the word o'clock can be pronounced /oʊˈklɑk/ ? Fête (talk) 22:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

It can be pronounced /ˈoʊ ˈklɑk/ only when enunciating. In normal speech it is always /əˈklɑk/. --WikiTiki89 22:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

sadness[edit]

You hear /ˈsædnɪs/ or /ˈsædnɛs/ in the file Media:En-us-sadness.ogg ? Fête (talk) 22:48, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

It is /ɪ/. The realization seems to be somewhere in between [ɪ] and [ɛ], but the phoneme is definitely /ɪ/. --WikiTiki89 00:16, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

ketchup[edit]

Ketchup is pronounced /ˈkɛtʃəp/ or /ˈkɛtʃʌp/ ? Fête (talk) 01:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

The phoneme is definitely /ə/, but the realization of /ə/ in many accents including mine is usually [ʌ]. --WikiTiki89 08:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

today[edit]

Does the word today can be pronounced /tʊˈdeɪ/ ? Fête (talk) 12:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes. --WikiTiki89 12:47, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

cottage[edit]

Quebecers pronounce /kɔ.tei̯dʒ/ for the word cottage. Fête (talk) 17:13, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I assume you mean in French? And is that a question? --WikiTiki89 17:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

kung fu[edit]

Kung fu is pronounced /ˌkʌŋ ˈfu/ or /ˌkʊŋ ˈfu/ ? Fête (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

/ˌkʌŋ ˈfu/ --WikiTiki89 18:17, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

problem[edit]

Problem is pronounced /ˈprɑblɛm/ ? Fête (talk) 22:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

/ˈprɑblɪm/, /ˈprɑbləm/, or /ˈprɑblm̩/ --WikiTiki89 10:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

enjoy[edit]

Enjoy is pronounced /ɪnˈdʒɔɪ/ ou /ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/ ? Fête (talk) 12:48, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

You're basically asking the same questions over and over again. If you haven't found the pattern yet, the answer is /ɪnˈdʒɔɪ/. --WikiTiki89 12:55, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

But the Wiktionary mark /ɪnˈdʒɔɪ/ or /ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/. Fête (talk) 13:05, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

You're right. Just fixed it. --WikiTiki89 13:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

I Think /ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/ is also correct, because the http://www.thefreedictionary.com/enjoy marks /ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/. Fête (talk) 13:14, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

/ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/ is hypercorrect and very rarely used other than when enunciating. --WikiTiki89 13:17, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

active[edit]

Does the word active can be pronounced /ˈæktəv/ ? Fête (talk) 13:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe in some accents. --WikiTiki89 13:27, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

message[edit]

Does the word message can be pronounced /ˈmɛseɪdʒ/ ? Fête (talk) 13:29, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely not. --WikiTiki89 13:29, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe Indian people. Fête (talk) 13:36, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe Indian people for whom English is not a native language. --WikiTiki89 13:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

forest[edit]

Do you hear /ˈfɔrɛst/ in the file Media:En-us-forest.ogg ? Fête (talk) 14:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

/ˈfɔrɪst/. --WikiTiki89 14:28, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

because[edit]

Because is pronounced /bɪˈkɔz/ or /bɪˈkʌz/ ? Fête (talk) 14:48, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Either one. --WikiTiki89 14:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Vietnam[edit]

Vietnam is pronounced /ˌvjɛt ˈnɑm/ or /ˌviət ˈnɑm/ ? Fête (talk) 16:16, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

/ˌvi.ətˈnɑm/ or /ˈvi.ətˌnɑm/. The /ə/ can also be /ɪ/ and the /ɑ/ can also be /æ/. --WikiTiki89 16:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

private[edit]

Generally, private is pronounced /ˈpraɪvɪt/ or /ˈpraɪvət/ ? Fête (talk) 16:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

It depends on your accent. --WikiTiki89 16:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Nguyen[edit]

How to pronounce Nguyen ? Fête (talk) 19:09, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

I have never heard this name pronounced, but I have read somewhere online that it is pronounced /wɪn/. --WikiTiki89 19:18, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Phung[edit]

How to pronounce Phung ? Fête (talk) 19:47, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Once again, I don't think I've ever heard this pronounced, but I would assume /fʌŋ/. --WikiTiki89 19:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

stomach[edit]

Stomach is pronounced /ˈstʌmək/ or /ˈstʌmɪk/ ? Fête (talk) 22:37, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Either one, depends on your accent. --WikiTiki89 07:46, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

China[edit]

Does the word China can be pronounced /ˈtʃaɪnʌ/ ? Fête (talk) 21:57, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

See #ketchup. --WikiTiki89 22:34, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

fat[edit]

Does the word fat can be pronounced /fɛt/ ? Fête (talk) 00:08, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

No. --WikiTiki89 07:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

law[edit]

Does the word law can be pronounced /lɑ/ ? Fête (talk) 11:52, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but only in accents with both the w:Cot-caught merger and the w:Father-bother merger. --WikiTiki89 13:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

progresse[edit]

In Quebec French, progresse is pronounced [pʁɔ.ɡʁɛs] or [pʁɔ.ɡʁaɛ̯s] ? Fête (talk) 22:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

No idea. --WikiTiki89 07:01, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

caisse[edit]

In Quebec French, caisse is pronounced [kɛs] or [kaɛ̯s] ? Fête (talk) 11:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

I assume [kaɛ̯s], but maybe you should be asking a native speaker of Quebec French? --WikiTiki89 12:00, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

terre[edit]

You hear [tɛːʁ] or [taɛ̯ʁ] in the file Media:Fr-terre-ca-Montréal.ogg ? Fête (talk) 12:32, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

[tɛːʁ]. --WikiTiki89 22:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

flower and flour[edit]

Flower and flour are pronounced as the same way ? Fête (talk) 23:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, in fact they have the same etymology but are spelled differently only to distinguish meaning. --WikiTiki89 07:34, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

person[edit]

Does the word person can be pronounced /ˈpɝsɪn/ ? Fête (talk) 22:19, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes. --WikiTiki89 22:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

bank[edit]

The word bank can be pronounced /bɛŋk/ ? Fête (talk) 23:34, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe in some accents. In my accent, [eɪŋ] is the normal realization of /æŋ/ and it is pronounced [beɪŋk]. --WikiTiki89 23:38, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

for and four[edit]

For and four are pronounced differently ? Fête (talk) 23:44, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

In most major accents they are exactly the same. In a few rare accents they are different. See w:Horse-hoarse merger. --WikiTiki89 00:13, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

love[edit]

Love can be pronounced [lɜv] ? Fête (talk) 00:33, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe in some accents where /ʌ/ is realized as [ɜ], but I don't know any off the top of my head. But the phoneme is clearly /ʌ/, thus /lʌv/. --WikiTiki89 00:47, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

lingerie[edit]

Why American people pronounce /ˌlɑnʒəˈreɪ/ for the word lingerie ? Fête (talk) 22:16, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

To try to pretend that they can speak French. --WikiTiki89 07:56, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

In French, lingerie is pronounced /lɛ̃ʒʁi/. Fête (talk) 08:44, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

That's why I said "pretend". Anyway /ɛ̃/ is sometimes pronounced more like [ɑ̃] (thus /ɑn/ in English). It's the /eɪ/ that I don't understand (maybe because a lot of English words that in in -y/-ie, end in in French). --WikiTiki89 09:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

regular[edit]

Regular is pronounced /ˈɹɛɡjʊlɚ/ or /ˈɹɛɡjəlɚ/ ? Fête (talk) 15:06, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Either one. They're basically the same thing. --WikiTiki89 15:27, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

coconut[edit]

Does the word coconut can be pronounced /ˈkoʊkoʊnʌt/ ? Fête (talk) 16:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

No. --WikiTiki89 19:58, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

fight and fête[edit]

I don’t hear the difference between fight and fête. Fête (talk) 20:25, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Is that a question? --WikiTiki89 20:27, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

There is a difference ? Fête (talk) 20:32, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

You're right there's pretty much no difference. --WikiTiki89 20:35, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

alphabet[edit]

Does the word alphabet can be pronounced /ˈælfəbɪt/ ? Fête (talk) 21:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe, but in my experience it's usually /ˈælfəˌbɛt/. --WikiTiki89 21:04, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

outlet[edit]

Outlet is pronounced /ˈaʊtˌlɛt/ or /ˈaʊtlɪt/ ? Fête (talk) 21:28, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

/ˈaʊtlɪt/. There is rarely stress on two syllables in a row. --WikiTiki89 06:36, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

your accent[edit]

Do you speak French with an Quebec accent ? Fête (talk) 12:41, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I speak French with an American accent. --WikiTiki89 12:47, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

temperature[edit]

Does the word temperature can be pronounced /ˈtɛmpəɹəˌtʃʊɹ/ ? Fête (talk) 14:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, see my edit. --WikiTiki89 14:26, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

coq au vin[edit]

Coq au vin is pronounced "coke oh van" in English ? Fête (talk) 23:52, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Probably something like that, but I've never heard it in English; I've only heard it in French. --WikiTiki89 07:28, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

restaurant[edit]

Does the word restaurant can be pronounced /ˈɹɛstɹənt/ ? Fête (talk) 13:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

No. --WikiTiki89 19:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

But http://www.thefreedictionary.com/restaurant marks /ˈɹɛstəˌɹɑnt/ or /ˈɹɛstəɹənt/. Fête (talk) 19:42, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Then maybe, but I've never heard that. --WikiTiki89 19:50, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

kung fu[edit]

Does the word kung fu can be pronounced /ˌkʊŋ ˈfuː/ ? Fête (talk) 20:12, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

See #kung fu above. --WikiTiki89 20:24, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

But http://www.thefreedictionary.com/kung+fu marks /ˌkʌŋ ˈfuː/, /ˌkʊŋ ˈfuː/ or /ˌɡʊŋ ˈfuː/. Fête (talk) 22:06, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe you should bring this up in the Tea Room to ask if anyone has ever heard /ˌkʊŋ ˈfuː/ or /ˌɡʊŋ ˈfuː/. I certainly haven't. --WikiTiki89 06:10, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Listen here http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=kung+fu&submit=Submit Fête (talk) 11:46, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Finding an obscure website with some unusual pronunciation is not a good way to verify it. Like I said, you should ask about this in the Tea Room. --WikiTiki89 12:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Kung fu is pronounced /ˌkʊŋ ˈfuː/ in Chinese. Fête (talk) 12:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

English is not Chinese. --WikiTiki89 12:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Why Quebeckers pronounce /kɔŋfu/ instead of /kuŋfu/ ? Fête (talk) 00:48, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Probably under influence of English. --WikiTiki89 01:25, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Sunday[edit]

Does the word Sunday can be pronounced /ˈsʌndi/ ? But I have never heard that. Fête (talk) 17:10, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

In some accents, yes. --WikiTiki89 17:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

explain[edit]

Can the word explain be pronounced /ɛksˈpleɪn/ ? Fête (talk) 01:33, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

See #enjoy above. --WikiTiki89 01:40, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

earnest[edit]

Can the word earnest be pronouned /ˈɝnɛst/ ? Fête (talk) 01:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

See #ticket above. --WikiTiki89 06:28, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

But Wiktionary marks /ˈɜ(ɹ)nɪst/ and /ˈɜ(ɹ)nɛst/. Fête (talk) 11:59, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

buttock[edit]

Can the word buttock be pronounced /ˈbʌtɑk/ ? Fête (talk) 00:38, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

No. --WikiTiki89 08:47, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

But I have already heard. Fête (talk) 13:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Where? --WikiTiki89 14:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

fête[edit]

In American English, fête is pronounced /feɪt/ or /fɛt/ ? Fête (talk) 14:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

American English speakers tend to pronounce English words, not French words. --WikiTiki89 14:46, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The word fête exists also in English. Fête (talk) 14:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I would say no it doesn't. It's just another French word that English speakers like to use to sound fancy, which by Wiktionary standards makes it an English word. But as for the pronunciation, this means that there is no real pronunciation so people pronounce how they think it should be pronounced, which is usually either /feɪt/ or /fɛt/. --WikiTiki89 14:53, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

How do you pronounce the word fête in French ? Fête (talk) 15:17, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I pronounce it /fɛt/ unless I am trying to speak with a Quebec accent. --WikiTiki89 15:19, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

pas[edit]

Do you knew how Quebeckers pronounce the word pas ? Fête (talk) 17:46, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing it's something like /pɑɔ̯/? --WikiTiki89 18:15, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

No, /pɔ/. Fête (talk) 18:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Well the details depend on subdialect. Like Montreal will be different from Quebec City. --WikiTiki89 18:18, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

In Quebec City, fête is pronounced [fɛːt] or [faɛ̯t] ? Fête (talk) 18:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I've heard it both ways. --WikiTiki89 18:38, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Do you have already lived in Quebec City ? Fête (talk) 18:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

No but I visited. I've been to Montreal more times though. --WikiTiki89 18:44, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The word arrête is pronounced [aʁɛt] in Quebec City and [aʁaɛ̯t] in Montreal. Fête (talk) 19:06, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

waitress[edit]

I think the word waitress can be pronounced /ˈweɪtɹɛs/. Fête (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

No. --WikiTiki89 20:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, listen here http://www.forvo.com/word/waitress/#en Fête (talk) 21:02, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I hear /ˈweɪtɹɪs/.
Just to clarify a little: English has a separate set vowel inventory for stressed and unstressed syllables (as do all languages with stress-based vowel reduction). While /ɪ/ and /ɛ/ are two separate vowels in the stressed syllable inventory, they merge in the unstressed inventory to something less distinct in between the two, which on Wiktionary we represent as /ɪ/, but some dictionaries use an entirely different symbol for it such as /ɨ/ or /ᵻ/. Thus fascist and rashest rhyme. If someone pronounces rashest as [ɹæʃɛst], this person will also pronounce fascist as [fæʃɛst]. Since pairs like -ist and -est, -is and ess, etc. have the same vowel sound, they are transcribed with the same IPA character. --WikiTiki89 21:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

hundred[edit]

I hear /ˈhʌndɹɛd/ in the last audio in http://www.forvo.com/word/hundred/#en Fête (talk) 21:56, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Did you read what I just said at #waitress above? --WikiTiki89 21:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Fête (talk) 22:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Its means that /ˈhʌndɹɛd/ is not a wrong pronunciation ? Fête (talk) 22:18, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

It means that /ˈhʌndɹɛd/ is a wrong way to represent the pronunciation [ˈhʌndɹɛd]. --WikiTiki89 22:21, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

cousin[edit]

Can the word cousin be pronounced /ˈkʌzɪn/ ? Fête (talk) 23:35, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Once again, it's the same thing phonemically. --WikiTiki89 23:39, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

portrait[edit]

Because the "or" of the word portrait is pronounced /oɹ/ without the horse-hoarse merger. If you are not OK, see Appendix:English pronunciation. Fête (talk) 00:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I know the horse-hoarse merger, but I'm pretty sure portrait is the horse vowel. --WikiTiki89 00:43, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

See http://www.thefreedictionary.com/portrait Fête (talk) 00:47, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

That gives the hoarse vowel as an alternative pronunciation. Also, I'm not sure how reliable that dictionary is. oxfordictionaries.com and Webster's give only the horse vowel pronunciation. --WikiTiki89 00:54, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

autre[edit]

In Quebec French, [ou̯tʁ] is a formal pronunciation or informal pronunciation for the word autre ? Fête (talk) 12:05, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know from firsthand experience, but from what I've read, it's formal. --WikiTiki89 12:10, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

[faɛ̯t] is a informal pronunciation for the word fête ? Fête (talk) 13:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Again, I don't know from firsthand experience, but from what I've read, this one is informal. --WikiTiki89 13:26, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Where do you read ? Fête (talk) 13:31, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't remember. --WikiTiki89 13:45, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

renne[edit]

Why Quebeckers pronounce [ʁaɛ̯n] for the word renne ? Fête (talk) 14:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

How would I know? --WikiTiki89 14:05, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

toé[edit]

Toé is pronounced /twe/, if you are not OK, listen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te69JK28DDo Fête (talk) 14:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

In that video I hear something between [twɐ] and [twæ]. So I don't know where you are getting [twe] from. --WikiTiki89 15:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

No, the last sentence of this video (Attention à toé. Bonne fight !). Fête (talk) 15:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, but still, if you listen to how he says année, the vowel is much higher than the one when he says toé. --WikiTiki89 15:06, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQAO0F4PWDA Fête (talk) 15:31, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

It's difficult to compare in that one. You have to find a clip where it is easy to compare words with final /e/ and words with final /ɛ/ to compare both of them to toé. --WikiTiki89 15:59, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

You hear [pœ.t‿ɛːt] or [pœ.t‿aɛ̯t] for the word peut-être in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te69JK28DDo Fête (talk) 21:41, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I hear [pœ.t‿ɛɪ̯t]. --WikiTiki89 22:40, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Halloween[edit]

Halloween is pronounced /ˌhæloʊˈin/ or /ˌhæləˈwin/ ? Fête (talk) 15:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I think those are both correct ways of analyzing the same sound. But I think the second one is more correct. --WikiTiki89 15:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

toé[edit]

/twe/ is correct, because the letter é is pronounced /e/ and the French Wiktionary marks /twe/. Fête (talk) 15:42, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

That's just how they spell it. Colloquial speech is not always spelled according to normal rules, otherwise toé would be pronounced /to.é/. --WikiTiki89 15:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

lung[edit]

Can the word lung be pronounce [lɔŋ] ? Fête (talk) 16:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely not. --WikiTiki89 16:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Do you hear [lɔŋ] in the file Media:En-us-lung.ogg ? Fête (talk) 16:48, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

No, I hear [ɫʌŋ]. --WikiTiki89 16:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Roshia[edit]

You hear /ɾoɕia/ or /loɕia/ in the file Media:Ja-Roshia.ogg ? Fête (talk) 17:11, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know much about Japanese so I don't know. --WikiTiki89 17:30, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Luc Bourgeois[edit]

Do you feel Luc Bourgeois has not a Quebec accent ? See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZC1K8hnCls Fête (talk) 17:37, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

He definitely does. Maybe he's trying to speak a little more formally? --WikiTiki89 17:48, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

sung3[edit]

You hear /sʊŋ/ or /sɔŋ/ in the file Media:Yue-送.oga ? Fête (talk) 17:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know much about Chinese either. --WikiTiki89 18:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

What do you hear ? Fête (talk) 18:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

It's hard to tell because I don't know much about Chinese. --WikiTiki89 18:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe /sʊŋ/. Fête (talk) 18:17, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

breakfast[edit]

You hear /ˈbɹɛkfəst/ or /ˈbɹɛkfɪst/ in the file Media:En-us-breakfast.ogg ? Fête (talk) 18:35, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

/ˈbɹɛkfɪst/ --WikiTiki89 19:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

voice[edit]

Do you know it's a male voice or female voice in the file Media:Qc-temps des fêtes.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:19, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Almost sounds like a computer voice. --WikiTiki89 20:01, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

fat[edit]

You hear /fæt/ or /fɛt/ in the file Media:Fat.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:31, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

/fæt/. --WikiTiki89 21:05, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

can't[edit]

You hear /kɑːnt/ or /kɒnt/ in the file Media:En-uk-can't.ogg ? Fête (talk) 21:10, 23 December 2012 (UTC) Phonemically it is /kɑːnt/. I'm not an expert on British accents, but it is plausible that some speakers might round it to [kɒːnt]. --WikiTiki89 21:18, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

tête[edit]

You hear [tɛːt] or [taɛ̯t] in the second audio of the file http://www.forvo.com/word/tête/#fr ? Fête (talk) 21:20, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

[taɛ̯t]. --WikiTiki89 21:41, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

fête[edit]

You hear [faɛ̯t] or [paɛ̯t] in the file Media:Qc-fête.oga ? Fête (talk) 21:56, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Answer me please. Fête (talk) 00:13, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

[faɛ̯t] --WikiTiki89 00:15, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

guerres[edit]

You hear [ɡɛːʀ] or [ɡaɛ̯ʀ] in the file http://www.forvo.com/word/guerres/#fr ? Fête (talk) 00:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Something in between like [ɡæɛ̯ʀ]. Is there a point to these questions by the way? --WikiTiki89 00:56, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Fête (talk) 01:02, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

And what is that point? --WikiTiki89 01:03, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Because it's difficult to hear. Fête (talk) 01:06, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

honnêtes[edit]

You hear [ɔ.nɛːt] or [ɔ.naɛ̯t] in the file http://www.forvo.com/word/honnêtes/#fr ? Merry Christmas ! Fête (talk) 01:06, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Something like [ɔ.nɛɪ̯t]. What I meant before was, is there a reason you need to transcribe these audio samples? Merry Christmas to you, too! (I actually don't celebrate Christmas since I am Jewish.) --WikiTiki89 01:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

fort[edit]

[fɒːʁ] is a formal or informal pronunciation of the word fort in Quebec French ? Fête (talk) 01:17, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know. --WikiTiki89 01:19, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I think it's neither formal nor informal. Fête (talk) 01:27, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

fête[edit]

You hear [fɛt] or [fɛːt] in the file Media:FR-Fête (Gaspésie).ogg ? Fête (talk) 01:27, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Length is relative and there is nothing to compare it to. --WikiTiki89 01:28, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Franco-Ontarian[edit]

Franco-Ontarian people have a Quebec accent ? Fête (talk) 02:42, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

If they're from Quebec, yes. Otherwise no. --WikiTiki89 02:44, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Quebec accent[edit]

In which region the word fête is pronounced /fɛːt/ in Quebec ? Fête (talk) 02:49, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

w:Quebec French#Regional varieties and their classification. --WikiTiki89 02:57, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

But /fɛːt/ is not in there. Fête (talk) 02:59, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Je ne comprends pas[edit]

You hear [ʒœ nœ kõ.pʁã pɑ] or [ʒœ nœ kõ.pʁã pɔ] in the file Media:Je ne comprends pas.ogg ? Fête (talk) 15:01, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Something more like [ʒœ nœ kõ.pʁã pɒ]. --WikiTiki89 15:04, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

First name and last name[edit]

Wilson[edit]

Wilson is a first name or last name ? Fête (talk) 15:27, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Both. --WikiTiki89 15:41, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

/ɹ/ and /ɻ/[edit]

What's the difference between /ɹ/ or /ɻ/ ? Fête (talk) 21:03, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

/ɹ/ is alveolar, while /ɻ/ is retroflex. --WikiTiki89 21:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

It's pronounced as the same way ? Fête (talk) 21:29, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

The difference is similar to that between /s/ and /ʂ/. --WikiTiki89 21:30, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Regarding the use of these symbols on Wiktionary: years ago (before my time) some users argued that US "r" was /ɻ/ rather than merely [ɻ], and entered a number of broad transcriptions accordingly. In the years since then, other users (myself included) have taken to converting them to the usual /ɹ/ whenever we find them. - -sche (discuss) 21:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

kung fu[edit]

You hear [kʊŋfu] or [kɔŋfu] in the file http://www.forvo.com/word/kung_fu/#yue ? Fête (talk) 00:57, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

See #sung3 above. --WikiTiki89 01:09, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

R[edit]

You hear [ɛːʁ], [æːʁ] or [aɛ̯ʁ] for the letter R in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YSvZ2hl3lc ? Fête (talk) 01:37, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

[æɛ̯ʁ]. --WikiTiki89 02:03, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

quatre-vingts[edit]

You hear [ka.tʁø.vɛ̃] or [ka.tʁø.væ̃] in the file Media:Fr-quatre-vingts-2.oga ? Fête (talk) 15:11, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I hear [kæt.ʁø.vɑ̃]. --WikiTiki89 15:25, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

rare[edit]

You hear [ʁaʁ] or [ʁɑʁ] in the file Media:Fr-Rare-fr-Paris.ogg ? Fête (talk) 15:38, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

[ʁɑʁ]. --WikiTiki89 16:01, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanksgiving[edit]

You hear /sɛŋks.ɡi.viŋ/ or /sɛŋks.ɡi.viŋɡ/ in the file Media:Fr-Normandie-Thanksgiving.ogg ? Fête (talk) 17:12, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I hear [sɛŋɡz.ɡi.viŋɡ]. --WikiTiki89 17:21, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Bonne fête[edit]

You hear [bɔn faɛ̯t] or [bɔn fɑɛ̯t] in the file Media:Bonne fête.ogg ? Fête (talk) 17:33, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

[bɔn fɑɛ̯t]. But why does it matter? --WikiTiki89 17:40, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

hamster[edit]

Why Quebeckers pronounce [am.stɚ] for the word hamster ? Hamster is not a word of English origin. Fête (talk) 18:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe because it is perceived to be? --WikiTiki89 22:03, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Peut-tight. Fête (talk) 23:37, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Toyota[edit]

Toyota is pronounced /tɔɪˈoʊtə/ or /toʊˈjoʊtə/ ? Fête (talk) 13:59, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Either /tɔɪˈjoʊtə/ or /təˈjoʊtə/. --WikiTiki89 14:04, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Samsung[edit]

Samsung is pronounced /ˈsæmsʌŋ/ or /ˈsæmsʊŋ/ ? Fête (talk) 17:18, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

/ˈsæmˌsʌŋ/. --WikiTiki89 17:52, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

patte and pâte[edit]

Why French people pronounce patte and pâte as the same way ? Fête (talk) 16:17, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Why do British people pronounce paw and pore the same way? --WikiTiki89 17:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Because they don't pronounce the r after a vowel. Fête (talk) 18:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

tempête[edit]

Do you have a video of someone who pronounce [tã.paɛ̯t] ? Fête (talk) 18:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

No. --WikiTiki89 18:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

You can check in Youtube. Fête (talk) 18:41, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

You can too. --WikiTiki89 18:43, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

boîte[edit]

You hear [bwaɛ̯t] or [bwei̯t] in the file Media:FR-boîte (Gaspésie).ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

[bwɛɪ̯t]. --WikiTiki89 19:47, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Does the word boîte can be pronounced [bwɑɔ̯t] ? Fête (talk) 19:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I have no idea. --WikiTiki89 19:59, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

tempête[edit]

You hear [tã.paɛ̯t], [tã.pɐɛ̯t]. [tã.pæɛ̯t] or [tã.pɛɪ̯t] in the file Media:FR-Tempête (Gaspésie).ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:03, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I guess [tã.pɐɛ̯t] is the closest. --WikiTiki89 20:07, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

carbon[edit]

Can the word carbon be pronounced /ˈkɑɹbɑn/ ? Fête (talk) 22:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

No. --WikiTiki89 22:24, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

robot[edit]

Can the word robot be pronounced /ˈɹoʊbət/ ? Fête (talk) 22:58, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe. --WikiTiki89 23:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

fête[edit]

In Quebec French, fête is marked [faɛ̯t] or [faᵋt] ? Fête (talk) 23:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Here on Wiktionary, we do not use "ᵋ". --WikiTiki89 23:27, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

peut-être[edit]

You hear [pœ.t‿aɛ̯tʁ], [pœ.t‿aɛ̯tʀ] or [pœ.t‿aɛ̯tχ] in the file Media:Qc-peut-être.ogg ? Fête (talk) 15:17, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

[pœ.t‿aɛ̯tʁ̊] --WikiTiki89 17:45, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Saskatchewan[edit]

You hear /səˈskætʃəwən/ or /həˈskætʃəwən/ in the file Media:En-ca-Saskatchewan.ogg ? Fête (talk) 23:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

It just sounds like the recording starts after he started speaking. --WikiTiki89 14:29, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

le[edit]

You hear /lə/ or /lœ/ in the file Media:Fr-le.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:18, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

I hear [lœ], but the phoneme is still /lə/. --WikiTiki89 20:30, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

button[edit]

Button is pronounced /ˈbʌtn̩/ or /ˈbʌtən/ ? Fête (talk) 21:29, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

The phoneme is the same; the realization depends on dialect. --WikiTiki89 21:31, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

une fête[edit]

You hear [ʏn fɛːt], [ʏn fɜːt] or [ʏn fɛ̈ːt] in the file Media:FR QC une fête.ogg ? Fête (talk) 00:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I'd guess [ʏn fʌœ̯t]. --WikiTiki89 01:24, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

hand[edit]

You hear [hænd] or [heə̯nd] in the file Media:En-us-hand.ogg ? Fête (talk) 01:47, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Definitely [heə̯nd]. --WikiTiki89 01:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

automne[edit]

You hear [o.tɔn] or [o.tʌn] in the file Media:Fr-automne-fr CA.ogg ? Fête (talk) 18:41, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

même[edit]

You hear [mɛ̃ːm] or [meɪ̯m] in the file Media:Qc-même-standard.ogg ? Fête (talk) 00:45, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

[mɛ̃ɪ̯m]. --WikiTiki89 13:57, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

tabarnak[edit]

I've never heard [tɑɔ̯.bar.nak]. Listen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzwHVrMHYh8 64.18.87.72 17:08, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

caisse[edit]

You hear [kɛɪ̯s] or [kaɪ̯s] in the file Media:FQ-caisse.ogg ? 198.105.111.50 22:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

caisse[edit]

You hear [kɛːs] or [kaɪ̯s] ? 198.105.102.113 22:52, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I hear [kæɪs], but if you keep asking me these things I'll block you again. --WikiTiki89 00:24, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Quebec French[edit]

For the diphthongization, it's written "their frequency is higher among uneducated speakers", but I don't think so, Quebec teachers use the diphthongization in my school. 138.229.21.208 00:39, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

The source cited is Le français québécois: normes et usages by Luc Ostiguy. Maybe you should go read that. --WikiTiki89 02:46, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
But the teachers generally pronounce [pɑːt] for pâte, but [taɪ̯t] for tête. 138.229.21.208 19:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't understand why the teachers continue to diphthongize. 138.229.21.208 00:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Why don't you ask the teachers, then? --WikiTiki89 04:22, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
I have already asked them, they told me that they have the right to diphthongize. 138.229.21.208 12:31, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Why tête [taɪ̯t] is considered as a nonstandard pronunciation ? But not letter [ˈlɛɾɚ] ? 138.229.21.208 19:40, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't know. --WikiTiki89 02:31, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Because [taɪ̯t] is strange ? 138.229.21.208 15:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
[taɪ̯t] is far from [tɛːt]. 138.229.21.208 22:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

basket[edit]

If someone pronounce the word basket as [ˈbæskɛt], is it a wrong prounciation ? 138.229.21.208 14:42, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

behaviour[edit]

This pronunciation is incorrect ? 138.229.21.208 23:29, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, it's hard to say what "incorrect" means, but this pronunciation is certainly very rare (because of the last syllable). --WikiTiki89 23:44, 15 August 2014 (UTC)