Wiktionary talk:Tutorial (Wrap-up and more info)

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Very nice tutorial! Thank you. Quinobi 17:02, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'll agree that it is a nice tutorial (adapted from Wikipedia, so it should be), but there are some serious vacancies in important pages that this tutorial links to. This needs a community effort. The policies and guidelines have almost nothing, but this is really an important part of Wiktionary. --Cromwellt|talk 01:13, 27 January 2006 (UTC)


I'm trying to add an idiom to wiktionary and want to register it as such so it will appear listed in the listof idioms. The tutorial has not told me how to do that.

Let's suppose I would like to create a new translation for a word in both English and Dutch dictionaries. I'll give an example, the adjective en:future (in English) and the noun nl:toekomst (in Dutch) have no translation to Portuguese. In the English version future translations, I see a really fancy pair of boxes named Add translation where apparently I could create a new page. In the Dutch version, there's no such option. How could this be done without using the fancy box? Gabriel.ferreira 18:08, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

You edit the page (click Edit atop the "future" page) and look in the wiki code for the translation table to which you want to add the Portuguese. then add it as a line in that table, like so: * Portuguese: {{t|pt|foo}} (where foo is the Portuguese word). (But the Dutch Wiktionary will likely have other norms, which I don't know.) By the way, future questions like this are better directed to [[WT:ID]], where more people will see them.​—msh210 (talk) 18:12, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


Really useful tutorial, thank you. One thing I'm unclear on is the difference between the talk pages like TeaRoom, and the 'discussion' pages I see on the entries. I thought the discussion pages would contain dicussion about the entry, but the ones I've found that weren't empty, contained what looked like examples of the headword, possibly from a corpus of some kind. Could you clarify the difference for me please? Thanks very much. PS am I doing the indenting thing right?? Sharon2001 (talk) 16:41, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Atop each entry there's a "discussion" link and a "citations" link. The latter is for citations, examples of the headword from corpora, as you noticed. The "discussion" link is for talk about the entry: but most talk about entries is centralized at the Tea room actually. And you followed the right syntax for indenting, but not the right social convention: indenting under and to the right of what I wrote above makes it looks as though you're responding to it.​—msh210 (talk) 17:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. So is there any criteria as to where you're actually supposed to put discussion about an entry - in TeaRoom or in the Discussion page; it looks like most people just go straight to the TeaRoom regardless - is that the best approach to follow? At any point does the thread get moved from TeaRoom to the entry's discussion page, so people can look back on it later? I'm thinking about if I wanted to look at all the conversations about a given entry, how I would find them. So if I'm starting a new thread, as I did here, I should have not indented at all, is that right? And then I indent when I'm replying? (I've changed it, now, so hopefully it's right.). Thanks again for your help. Sharon2001 (talk) 12:20, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
You can start a discussion in the Tea room or on an entry's talkpage: either is fine. But the latter might not be noticed by anyone for a long time, whereas the former will be. As for archiving the Tea room, we have no formal rule, alas. Some people archive each section to the talk page of the relevant entry; others to the Tea room archive. Among the latter group, some link to the Tea room archive from the entry's talkpage, and others do not. I think the surest way of finding past discussions about an entry is — using [[foo]] as an example — to check [[talk:foo]], [[special:whatlinkshere/foo]], [[WT:DEL/F]], and http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=foo. As far as indenting, yes, that's right; and I've now fixed my previous post here, and your last one, so they are correctly under your penultimate one.​—msh210 (talk) 07:09, 15 July 2012 (UTC)