Reconstruction talk:Proto-Germanic/straikaz

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Yep, related to streak; wasn't sure if it might have been a conflation/partial derivation though. Leasnam (talk) 18:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

German Streich[edit]

A user said that according to Kluge the word does not belong here, which is wrong. Kluge says it's derived from the verb at hand in streichen, but by that he must mean an old ablaut formation, since he very unambiguously derives the word from MHG streich, which can only be from Germanic straik-, not strīk-. I've added it back to the list. Kolmiel (talk) 17:23, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Oh, and he can't mean the weak verb MHG streichen either, because he mentions the MHG variant strīch, which he says is "closer to the vowel of the present tense", which proves that he means the strong verb. Kolmiel (talk) 17:31, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Some more background: Pfeiffer derives the modern German word from the mentioned MHG variant strīch, but Kluge disagrees as I said, and DWB says that the variant is found only in a handful of attestations. Moreover, the dialectal forms mentioned in DWB all have reflexes of Germanic -ai-. DWB (1957) also says that English "stroke" is a perfect match, though they are not entirely sure whether it's Proto-Germanic or not. -- At any rate, as long as we do reconstruct PG straikaz it seems safe that the German words do belong here. (Actually they are even necessary for the reconstruction because the MLG form could be cognate with German Strich rather than Streich.) Kolmiel (talk) 17:55, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Yes on Middle Low German streke, it could be either. I left an information note stating that possibility Leasnam (talk) 17:59, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
btw, Kolmiel, thank you for looking into this ! :) Leasnam (talk) 18:00, 14 May 2016 (UTC)