Help talk:Creating a Wikisaurus entry

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See Wiktionary:Thesaurus considerations for the debate about how a Thesaurus should be implemented in Wiktionary.


Should the synonym etc. entries be wikified, I assumed they were until I hit a page where they weren't? 20.133.0.14 09:26, 26 May 2005 (UTC) Yes, synonyms should be wikified. You might like to correct the page that you found. SemperBlotto 09:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What should we be *Saurus-ing?[edit]

It says on this page that if the particular word is listed as a synonyms in another WikiSaurus article it shouldn't be added, I think it should be for a few reasons: 1) Not everyone knows what every headword we chose means, they may know another. If I am looking for a new word for pants but am not familiar with trousers I am plain out of luck.

You search for pants in the Wiksaurus namespace, and you'll find the trouser entry.--Richardb 05:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2) If strange is used as a synonym for odd, that doesn't reveal its meaning as unfamiliar/exotic. This is critical, because many words have different synonyms for different senses, and those may be lost using this criterion.

You search for strange in the Wiksaurus namespace, and you'll perhaps find more than one entry.--Richardb 05:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

3) Completeness. A good thesaurus will have an entry for every word with synonyms it possibly can, even if it is a simple "See Xxx" for words with no distinct synonyms. Why not aim high? - TheDaveRoss 07:12, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Because we are not a printed publication. By using search you will find what you want very quickly. What you are asking for is, in practice, a cross-reference from every word to every other word that is a synonym, near-synonym, anotnym, related etc. Very, very hard to maintain, impossibly hard, and gives us nothing that the simple search doesn't already give us.--Richardb 05:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Every word should have its own entry, but we should also provide the lists for all other entries that include that word, like thesaurus.com. Unfortunately, I don't think MediaWiki is set up to do this without substantial modification for Wikisaurus. I think that is what needs to happen before this project can take off. -kslays 15:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

capitalisation[edit]

Should the headword be capitalised in the template as prescribed in the help page? The template creates a link based on the entry which will normally be red or a redirect presuming that the entry for the headword is created correctly uncapitalised. I suspect that this is a hangover from before the sesmic shift of capitalisation & will change soon unless someone tells me otherwise. --MGSpiller 23:37, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect you're right with your suspicion. Ncik 23:01, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Necessary tidying up of Wikisaurus templates.[edit]

Ages ago, when someone decided we should change WikiSaurus to Wikisaurus, Vildricianus did a bit of changing, but didn't really follow through with it properly, leaving something of a mess. I'm about to try to tidy up the mess, so please bear with me.--Richardb 12:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See User talk:Vildricianus == change of Template:WikiSaurus-link to Wikisaurus ==
When you felt it necessary to make the change from template WikSaurus-link to Wikisaurus, why did you not also do the necessary clean up of removing all references to WikiSaurus-link.
It's counter-productive to make changes but only go half-way and leave a completely ambiguous mess behind.
what was so wrong with WikiSaurus-link that the mess that is there now is better ?--Richardb 05:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I've discovered an even bigger stuff up you created by what was frankly unnecessary meddling. We now have a template:WikiSaurus and a template:wikisaurus (spot the difference ?) which correspond to two different templates that I created, which were Template:wikisaurus-header, and Template:wikisaurus-link. Those names had clear meanings. Why you renamed them to two very confusingly similarly named templates, which even I can't remember which is which, is beyond me. So I guess I'll do the necessary tidying up to put it all back to being understandable. Thanks!

Sorry guys, I'm not hanging around for a vote to do this cleanup. --Richardb 13:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RFD discussion: December 2019–February 2020[edit]

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No longer needed. The stuff in the page history is not very useful. --ReloadtheMatrix (talk) 11:09, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]