Reconstruction talk:Proto-Germanic/bijǭ

Biene

I'm not sure, but I would think that forms in -n (OS bini; OHG bina, bini) would be placed at a different root: *bīnō ? Leasnam (talk) 00:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Probably yes. I'm not sure where the -i in OS and OHG comes from though. There are two possibilities that I can think of. The first is that the noun is a masculine or neuter ja-stem *bīnijaz, *bīniją, but that seems a bit unusual if OHG also has a feminine in -a. The second is that the noun is an i-stem (presumably feminine, then), which implies that the i in the stem must be short (*biniz) because the final -i would have been lost after a long vowel. I suppose a third possibility is a u-stem *binuz, but I don't know about that. —CodeCat 00:22, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

From what I can tell, the stem vowel in *bini was short in both OS and OHG; whilst in bīna it was long. OHG bini is the older form, so bīna may have been an alteration due to analogy with other forms, like bīa. Were I to create a second entry, I prob would make it an i-stem. Leasnam (talk) 11:35, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Limburgish

Where exactly should Linburgish be placed? It's Meuse-Rhenisch, and a descendant of Old Dutch (?), so a proper placement would be...co-lateral to Middle Dutch? Leasnam (talk) 00:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's placed right I think. There is a list at WT:AGEM, but of course that's not final and if it needs improving it can be changed. —CodeCat 00:18, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! :)Leasnam (talk) 00:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

We place all German dialects under Middle High German. The difference between normalized (Bavarian) MHG and the kind of MHG that Ripuarian or Luxembourgish are derived from is much greater than the differences within Middle Dutch. Limburgish should be placed under Middle Dutch. Prior to the modern era we distinguish High German, Low Franconian, and Low Saxon. Everything else starts with the modern languages; that's a consistent system. Kolmiel (talk) 15:05, 24 April 2017 (UTC)