Reconstruction talk:Proto-Germanic/tawjaną

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OE tūdor[edit]

I wonder if OE tūdor (offspring, progeny, fruit, product) could be related. If this PIE root is correct, then tūdor could reflect Pre-Germanic *duh₂tróm (that which is made or produced). I can't account for the variant OE tuddor, but I think it can only be a case of vowel shortening and compensatory lengthening of the consonant. Anglom (talk) 17:03, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a possibility although I don't know that root. I don't think it's compensatory lengthening of the consonant, though. Rather I think it's lengthening because of the following final syllabic -r, which also happens in other words like apple or in Dutch akker. This change appears occasionally in all West Germanic languages. The vowel shortening would have then been the compensatory change, to avoid a sequence of long vowel + geminated consonant. —CodeCat 17:15, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, that actually makes more sense, thank you. As to the root: Kroonen seems to accept it, Beekes makes mention of it as the only proposed root for the Greek forms δύναμαι (dúnamai) and δυναστεία (dunasteía), but he doesn't seem to accept it fully. Anglom (talk) 17:31, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]