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@Per utramque cavernam: Hello. It's a bad move, please move back to п'яны and other terms you have moved. We use normal apostrophes only. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 01:00, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Repeating the ping: @Per utramque cavernam, in case you missed it. The use of apostrophes in headwords at Wiktionary applies not only to Belarusian but Ukrainian, French, etc. I see you have moved quite a few entries. I'm not sure where were the original discussions but the language policy said ', not ’ before you changed it. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 07:00, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@Atitarev: Hello. In that last version of the transliteration policy before my edits, the table was definitely giving the curved apostrophe ’ (it's true that both were mentioned below, though). Moreover, a few entries were already using the curved apostrophe: Дар’я (Darʺja), з’яўляцца (zʺjaŭljacca), з’явіцца (zʺjavicca), Соф’я (Sófʺja).
I chose the curved apostrophe because I thought it was the correct one from an orthotypographic standpoint. According to the WP article (I'd like a more official source, but it's better than nothing), the straight one is used only out of convenience in computing contexts. But I don't think convenience is a good enough reason, especially now that MediaWiki has some kind of built-in support: mw:Extension:Cognate. I'm not sure exactly what that entails, though; please let me inquire into that.
So I can do the moves back if you're absolutely positive that's the right way to proceed, but I'd like to be sure.
Btw, I'd definitely support using the curved apostrophes for French. Orthotypography is important. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 09:51, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@Per utramque cavernam: The English Wiktionary uses U+0027 while the French Wiktionary uses U+2019. It is not a difference of orthography but of policy. Here on the English Wiktionary you shouldn’t move п'яны to п’яны. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 12:15, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@TAKASUGI Shinji, Atitarev: All right, I've moved the four remaining entries above as well. Still, I think a change in policy would be welcome, because I don't see any compelling reason to keep using the straight apostrophe. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 13:46, 14 February 2018 (UTC)