Talk:ܡܐܪܐ

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Hi @Antonklroberts I believe the inherited form of this word is ܡܲܪܵܐ. I’m assuming the spelling ܡܹܐܪܵܐ is due to the urmian pronunciation ‘mira’ but this is most likely because it’s common in urmian to replace A with E/I to avoid germination. For example- kesa from kassa, kika from kakka, shita from shatta, etc. Other dialects have different strategies but these all point to an original form ܡܲܪܵܐ. Please let me know if you disagree otherwise we can change it. Thanks! Shuraya (talk) 01:03, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi there, I took the whole Urmian a to e into consideration. I believe the standard inherited form would have had the extra alap in it, all of my references have the additional alap with any of the three vocalisations ܡܲܐܪܵܐ ܡܵܐܪܵܐ or ܡܹܐܪܵܐ. Although I disagree with ܡܵܐܪܵܐ as I believe this was a misinterpretation. I will add the reference links below if that helps you! :) Antonklroberts (talk) 01:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the response! I see the classical standard form ܡܲܪܵܐ is actually on sureth dictionary as well (http://assyrianlanguages.org/sureth/dosearch.php?searchkey=33327&language=id) but I wouldn’t really trust that site for etymology or spelling standards because it actually has many mistakes and false etymologies. I don’t really see why they chose to include the forms with alap, since nothing really points to that in the modern dialects, but we can keep it anyways if you think it should be this. But maybe we can also add ܡܲܪܵܐ as a the alternative form. Let me know, thank you again Shuraya (talk) 05:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes I agree with you, i know sometimes the website can be quite inconsistent. I think that's a smart idea i'll add ܡܲܪܵܐ in the alternative forms. Antonklroberts (talk) 07:33, 24 July 2024 (UTC)