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Ancient Chinese[edit]

Could we get the ancient Chinese pronunciation of this? I'm interested. Badagnani 10:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

According to Guangyun, the middle Chinese pronunciation would have been something like [ ǐak ][1]. In modern Min Nan, it is [ iɔk˥˥ ], which is not that far off. It would not surprise me if the Cantonese pronunciation were also somewhere in the ballpark.

A-cai 11:53, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Can these pronunciations be added into the entry? 08:38, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Can these pronunciations please be added into the article? 20:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
They answer to your question (asked twice) is yes. -- A-cai 20:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


Does this character denote the same thing as ? Johnny Shiz (talk) 21:15, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@Johnny Shiz 现代汉语词典7 p1620 says: "籥 yuè 同"龠2"。" 龠2 (same page) reads: "龠2 yuè 古代一种乐器,形状像箫。"
现代汉语规范词典3 p1781 says: "籥 yuè 1古同"龠1"。0 2 名〈文〉锁钥1。" The 锁钥 meaning is not found in the definitions of 龠 given on page 1630.
Didn't look at the other dictionaries yet.
On this basis, I would say that 籥 and 龠 are not the same thing, but they both have a usage that refers to a particular musical instrument. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 15:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
@Geographyinitiative Are the musical instruments in question identical? Johnny Shiz (talk) 22:47, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
@Johnny Shiz My feeling is that these four dictionaries want us to believe that 龠 and 籥 can refer to the same type of musical instrument.
现代汉语规范词典3 p1630 says: "龠1 yuè 名 古代一种用竹管编排制成的吹奏乐器,类似后世的排箫。"
The second definition for 籥 in 教育部重編國語辭典修訂本 has "通「龠」。" [2]
The first definition for 龠 has "也作「籥」。" [3]
The definition for 籥 in 教育部國語辭典簡編本 has "通「龠」。" [4]
The first definition for 龠 has "△籥" [5]
--Geographyinitiative (talk) 12:18, 1 March 2019 (UTC)