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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Sérgio R R Santos in topic Pronunciation

Pronunciation

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@Polomo47 "díodo" is the more common spelling used in Portugal, however, I've never heard anyone pronouncing it like "díudo", always as "diôdo" (and I studied electronics). Sérgio Santos (talk) 13:00, 29 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Polomo47 By the way, the transcriptions and audios in Infopédia should be taken with a grain of salt; sometimes they're completely wrong, especially with uncommon or technical terms, as is the case with this one. I think the pronunciation ['diudu] is entirely theoretical (based on the spelling), since I've never in my life heard that pronunciation; I think the lady who recorded the Infopédia audio had no idea what it meant, and/or had never heard anyone saying it. Many of the audios are glitchy, others are good. The Icelandic dictionary has excellent audios, I don't know how Portuguese people couldn't make such a high quality online dictionary, we can't do anything right. Sérgio Santos (talk) 23:41, 2 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I never replied because I’d realized my mistake before you even messaged — but then my edit got eaten up and didn’t end up published. I hope the entry is okay now?
And, yeah, I get what you’re saying about Infopédia. What do you think about how I set up the pronunciations at coa? Polomo47 (talk) 23:49, 2 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
It looks good. Regarding coa, I honestly have no idea; I guess [koɐ] would make sense when stressed, and [kwɐ] when unstressed (I know, function words are fundamentaly unstressed, but in the case of bisyllabic words (like pelo), the stress does fall in one of the syllables when pronounced in isolation). Now that I think of it, it was probably always unstressed, so it seems fine the way it is now. The contraction does still occur in the spoken language (I don't know about Brazil), the way I say it (now that you made me think about it) would be something like [ko̯ɐ], whitch is practically indistinguishable from [kwɐ] (or [ku̯ɐ] as I prefer it, but that's a different conversation). Sérgio Santos (talk) 00:08, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, the sequence com a does kind of contract for me in speech, I guess, but I wouldn’t call it a contraction. The way I pronounce it is like [ˈkõw̃ a] > [kũw̃ ɐ] > [kw̃‿ɐ], and that’s just a regular phonological process... /u, ũ/ as well as /i, ĩ/ turn to glides before a vowel.
What you describe, though, appears to be a contraction indeed. Polomo47 (talk) 00:50, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Well, in rapid speech all kinds of crazy shit happen to the portuguese language - here in Portugal it turns into russian! Sérgio Santos (talk) 00:54, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply