Talk:get one's panties in a bunch

Would you say that this is the prototypical form from which the others are derived? Panties in modern US English is the word most people use, and the others are either euphemisms or foreignisms. And it is the one most commonly used as an insult toweards men , though that may just be because it is the most common word in general. Soap (talk) 19:36, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Panties in a knot

Missing entry: get one's panties in a knot --User123o987name (talk) 18:23, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Is it common? No hits in Google Books. Equinox ◑ 18:27, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Really I wish we could just direct all these near-identical phrases to the same page, and list the variations underneath along with usage notes saying which are euphemisms, which are rare, which are puns, and so on. why do we need so many pages for the same thing? and with all of the clutter on the verb header saying what the past participle is, and so on. really this would need to be a ground-up change for the whole site, maybe even requiring a software update to handle the auto-search, and not something to address on just a single page, so i dont think the change i want will happen, but its really annoying to have to find the "real" page everytime i want to link to something instread of just having them all point to the same page. and yet even with all these pages, someone starting the search with "don't" will never find any of them, because our software starts the search from the first word instead of looking for the content words. Essentially this is just panties bunch and a few grammar words that a smart search engine would ignore. —Soap— 11:57, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes i see the irony of having a tantrum on this page and it wasnt on purpose. Anyway, the panties and bunch are both variable as well, for example a children's show used tutu. So i see how this expression can be shorn of all its content and yet there's still something there. I believe the search algorithm is handled by MediaWiki, not Wiktionary, so there's little if anything we can do to solve the "first word" problem. Still, I wish there were

1. cleaner headers, without all those useless verb forms (if we need them to display at all, can it just be the part that changes?). or else use {{head}} and call it a phrase instead of a verb
2. all of the variants on the same page, instead of having them scattered about. there arent just a few variations of the phrase, there are dozens, possibly hundreds. if i were writing MediaWiki from the ground up i'd try to build in a "merged page" feature that would just have the pages themselves all together, with the title displaying based on what the URL is. Something much harder than what we call a hard redirect. Like how a file in Unix can have two names, both of which are just as well described as "the real name".

Thanks, —Soap— 14:07, 1 June 2023 (UTC)