Talk:laetification

RFV discussion: August–September 2017

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laetification

Only in James Joyce. Equinox ◑ 20:23, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Not only. I even found one that predates Finnegans Wake. This one is cited Kiwima (talk) 22:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

It doesn't really pre-date Finnegan's Wake; that book was originally published in Transition magazine (of which Eugene Jolas was the editor) in several parts as a "Work in Progress" - so Joyce was the author of that quote too. It also seems dubious to me to include the citation from A First Draft of Finnegan's Wake (of which again Joyce must surely be credited as the author?). BigDom 04:46, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Interestingly there's a hit in a French work from 1858- I wonder if that was one of Joyce's sources. DTLHS (talk) 04:50, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Joyce's source is almost certainly the altar boy's response to the priest's opening (Introit) of the Roman Catholic Mass: "Ad Deum qui laetificate, juventutem meum". I can't assign a particular date to that line, but expect it to be several centuries earlier. DCDuring (talk) 04:24, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

RFV-passed (even with counting all the Joyce references as one, we still have three) Kiwima (talk) 10:53, 1 September 2017 (UTC)