Talk:lancia

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(This page preserves the edit history of what started out as Reconstruction:Latin/lancia, and will soon hold the related RFM.)

RFM discussion: December 2021[edit]

The following discussion has been moved from Wiktionary:Requests for moves, mergers and splits (permalink).

This discussion is no longer live and is left here as an archive. Please do not modify this conversation, but feel free to discuss its conclusions.


This started out as the technically invalid "Reconstructed:Vulgar Latin/lancia", which misspells the namespace. I moved it to the technically valid Reconstruction:Latin/lancia. @Nicodene correctly objected to it being in the Reconstruction namespace on the ground that it was attested, but then made the bizarre choice of moving it to the technically invalid Latin/lancia. Because of the difference between the ways the Reconstruction namespace and mainspace are arranged, Latin/lancia would be a subpage of the word "Latin" rather than the language Latin- if such a thing was even remotely permissible (it isn't).

If this isn't merged into the lancia page as a Latin L2 section, it will have to be deleted- which only leaves one question: how best to do this without losing the attribution necessary for Wiktionary's Creative Commons license. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:19, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

'Merg[ing it] into the lancia page as a Latin L2 section' was essentially what I was trying to do, without success. Sorry for the inconvenience. Nicodene (talk) 07:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's possible for an admin to merge the page histories, so that attribution is not lost. —Mahāgaja · talk 09:16, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently that isn't possible after all (or if it is, I can't figure out how; Special:MergeHistory doesn't work for it). So the history is preserved at Latin/lancia, which is now a redirect to lancia#Latin. —Mahāgaja · talk 09:26, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Special:MergeHistory works only if the oldest revision in the target page is newer than the newest version in the source page. In other words, the old page history must come completely before the new page history. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 13:00, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's not always possible, but when it is possible (like here), my tactic is to move the page whose history needs to be preserved to be the talk page of the page its contents were merged into (so we're not left with a badly-named mainspace page), in this case Talk:lancia. I added a link to that talk page to the header, so then this discussion can be archived there, explaining the situation and keeping the talk page from being deleted for being empty. - -sche (discuss) 05:07, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]