Talk:locational based marginal pricing

From Wiktionary, the free dictionary
Jump to navigation Jump to search

The following information passed a request for deletion.

This discussion is no longer live and is left here as an archive. Please do not modify this conversation, but feel free to discuss its conclusions.


Seems like [[location]]-[[based]] [[marginal]] [[pricing]] or [[w:LMP]] et al. DCDuring TALK 00:52, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as a set phrase in a specific industry. Its meaning is impossible to establish from sum of parts. Evidence of worldwide usage on web and in books. However, not sure it needs to be caps, as some of them are lower case, also hyphenated between locational and based.--Dmol 03:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is only capitalized in second-rate glossaries. It should not have any capitals. I have no idea what it means, based on the individual words, so keep. —Stephen 05:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any objective evidence behind either of these assertions or is this just a Vote? DCDuring TALK 09:50, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Where in the title do you say any mention of electricity? Move to lowercase. DAVilla 12:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A quick Google Books search shows locational marginal pricing (LMP) as the most common term (248 results), with a few instances each of location marginal pricing (9), location-based marginal pricing (7), and the practically illiterate locational based marginal pricing (4). Per Wikipedia, it is also called nodal pricing (903). Michael Z. 2009-04-30 01:50 z

One could take any four-word compound (especially an ill-formed one like this) out of a native context in which it is used (and understood in general without definition), and define its use as limited to the context. Moreover one could add senses as it gains traction in other contexts. Interdisciplinary terms would be perfect for this. Variant forms will be abundant. Wiktionary 10 Million! Let a thousand jargons bloom! time-of-day pricing, congestion-based pricing, peak-load pricing, demand-charge pricing, real-time congestion pricing. I might want more than 10,000 words on my watchlist. DCDuring TALK 16:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As someone else put it, it might meet the what the hell is that? test. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Kept and moved, consensus. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


RFV discussion: March 2011–January 2012[edit]

The following discussion has been moved from Wiktionary:Requests for verification (permalink).

This discussion is no longer live and is left here as an archive. Please do not modify this conversation, but feel free to discuss its conclusions.


Tagged but not listed. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:41, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are some hits for this, mainly uppercase (mea culpa, see page history) but I don't understand what our definition means so I can't cited it, or only blindly. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:31, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I presume it means marginal pricing that is based on location in a contextually sensible way. DCDuring TALK 19:49, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps marginal cost pricing. DCDuring TALK 19:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Read this of locational marginal pricing. If this was to be kept it should probably be moved to locational marginal pricing which for its part appears SOP as locational + marginal pricing. I think marginal pricing would merit an entry of its own. --Hekaheka 05:26, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A further notion: "locational based" appears an unhappy concoction of "locational" and "location-based". --Hekaheka 05:31, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

At least the New York Independent System Operator uses this term for something that is more commonly called locational marginal pricing (which we do not have). Thus, this term is clearly used, but I still don't know whether it should be kept. --Hekaheka 23:25, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. - -sche (discuss) 20:16, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]