Talk:mise en bouteille

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mise en bouteille

Erm [[mettre] [[en]] [[bouteille]]? Just means to put into a bottle, a bit like the really commons verbs in English (in this case, (deprecated template usage) put you can put virtually noun with it. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• Keep, idiomatic. It may be sum of parts, but it's also the set term used in viniculture, and it can't be translated into English by translating the separate parts (we say "bottling", not "putting into a bottle"). Ƿidsiþ 14:45, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• Keep mise en bouteille (possibly in English) on the non-CFI rationale that it appears on labels and needs to be understood by consumers. CFI rationale: May also be a legal idiom in French (and English?) in the longer forms "mise en bouteille au chateau" and mise en bouteille au negociant. DCDuring TALK 15:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

  See #ground beef above for the food-labeling legal regulatory idiom issue. DCDuring TALK 17:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I've actually changed to {{rfd-sense}} because mettre en bouteille has a second meaning. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:45, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• Keep The existence of the second meaning, which seems specific to Belgium, makes the presence of the first meaning almost necessary. Removing it might be very misleading to users. Lmaltier 07:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
• Kept, everyone seems to agree. Mglovesfun (talk) 04:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)}}