Talk:svalvolare

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@Imetsia Hi. You marked all of these usages as transitive when they're in fact all intransitive. (Also the first two meanings appeared the same so I combined them.) Benwing2 (talk) 01:04, 4 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Benwing2: At least one of them (the first one) is transitive. Other Italian dictionaries say so too. Imetsia (talk) 16:44, 7 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Imetsia Are you sure? Can you give me an example? I can't find any transitive examples with this meaning and I don't know what the transitive meaning would be. Benwing2 (talk) 18:47, 7 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Benwing2: The transitive meaning is to "make (something like an engine, car, etc.) race; to overrun." An example construction might be "svalvolare il motore — to overrun the motor." Imetsia (talk) 21:59, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Imetsia Can you find me a citation for this? I specifically looked for 'svalvolare il motore' and all occurrences are of the form 'fare svalvolare il motore', which is an intransitive usage. Benwing2 (talk) 22:12, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Italian dictionaries include it. Both the Zanichelli and Devoto-Oli include this as their example construction. I was able to find a few transitive uses here: [1], [2], [3], although these are all figurative. Imetsia (talk) 02:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Imetsia Hum. OK if it's in those dictionaries we can include it but I'll mark it as extremely rare. Benwing2 (talk) 03:05, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply