Talk:the end justifies the means

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This phrase is ridiculous because it ignores the fact that the side effect of the means is part of the end. —This comment was unsigned.

Maybe, but we're just trying to catalogue the words people use and what they mean! Things like logical fallacies are usually beyond the remit of a dictionary. Equinox 19:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

proverb (basic truth) vs. phrase (possibility of being highly controversial)[edit]

The words proverb is defined as A phrase expressing a basic truth which may be applied to common situations here. Since it is not "basic truth", let me change the word proverb into phrase and insert info at the beginning of the gloss saying that it is controversial.--Dixtosa 19:50, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

This is the kind of thing that is considered a proverb by most who study proverbs (See Wiktionary:Proverbs and w:Proverb.). w:Wolfgang Mieder is a leading scholar of proverbs, the field of paremiology (w:Paremiology). DCDuring TALK 23:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)