Template talk:ayq

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the Ayi languages

We currently call {{ayq}} "Ayi (Papua New Guinea)". This was presumably to distinguish it from one or two other "Ayi" language(s):

• a Chinese language called "Ayi" which Wikipedia equates with {{nun}} — but Google Books supports our decision to name {{nun}} "Anong"
• a Chinese language (possibly the same one) which Ethnologue gives the code {{ayx}} — but that code was deleted by Liliana in 2011 with the comment "deprecated, do not use"

It is troubling that "Ayi" is completely unattested as the name of a(ny) language, but now that {{ayx}} has been deleted and {{nun}} has been called "Anong", we gain nothing from giving {{ayq}} the parenthetical "(Papua New Guinea)", so I propose we drop it. - -sche (discuss) 21:56, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

See iso639-3:ayx: "Apparently due to an error in reading Chinese linguistic sources (probably the Encyclopedic Dictionary of Chinese Linguistics) years ago, the name of a Nungish language spoken by some members of the Nu nationality group in China was mistakenly read as 阿依 ("Ayi" in Pinyin Romanization) rather than 阿侬 ("Anong") , and this was submitted to Ethnologue as "Ayi." Nu nationality intellectuals have confirmed that there are four languages spoken by members of this nationality group: Drung (which will probably need to be split into Drung and Anung/Along), Nusu, Rourou and Anong. There is no record of any language named "Ayi" spoken by members of the Nu nationality in Chinese literature or in the knowledge of local Nu intellectuals and therefore we conclude this is an error due to the similar appearance of the characters 侬 (nong) and 依 (yi)." All in all, I'm going to rename {{ayq}} to just Ayi, as the disambiguation is no longer needed. -- Liliana • 22:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC)