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Again, welcome! --Vahag (talk) 00:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Welcome![edit]

Glad to see someone else is interested in Arabic. I fixed up the page for لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله -- for a phrase, the vocalized text should go under the |head= parameter, with links manually added. Benwing (talk) 06:33, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Great! Thanks for all your painstaking cleanups and expansions and just generally catching my careless mistakes and omissions. I am wondering about the headers with the article - the majority of such articles I have seen have the sun letters unassimilated in transliteration (e.g. الْشَمْس(al-šams) instead of الشَّمْس(aš-šams)), and I was always taught to transliterate for spelling rather than pronunciation - is this to be avoided? I noticed in the declension tables they are assimilated. Thanks and good to see other people working on Arabic! Aperiarcam (talk) 07:23, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome! It should definitely be الشَّمْس(aš-šams), with assimilation. The assimilation is always written as such in Arabic regardless of how it's transliterated and in any case on Wiktionary we choose to transliterate the assimilation. Benwing (talk) 21:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

أَبُو ظَبِي(ʾabū ẓabī) should be أَبُو ظَبْي(ʾabū ẓaby),no?[edit]

Since it's based on ظَبْي(ẓaby). Benwing (talk) 15:34, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Wehr agrees with you, but when I was looking for inflections of the name, I got a bunch of varied results as to its proper form. The most reliable seemed to me to be the Routledge grammar, which claims that it should be read "abū ẓabī" and left uninflected, but the reference grammar I usually use (Ryding) says it should be "abū ẓabiyy," like an idafa, and inflected at the end as a triptote. As you might imagine, I haven't found it in any voweled texts, but I tried searching for "أبو ظبيا‎" to see if it was attested as taking regular case endings, and got no hits. That doesn't exclude the possibility that the form is sort of a half-idafa with the mudeef always in the genitive (i.e. أَبُو ظَبِيِّ(ʾabū ẓabiyyi)), but this inclined me to favor the Routledge reading. If it should be "ʾabū ẓaby" on intuitive grounds, I still think usage favors some sort of long vowel here, but admittedly usage seemed to be all over the map in the sources I consulted. Aperiarcam (talk) 20:18, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Yiddish etymologies[edit]

I don't know how much Yiddish you have added or intend to add; I appreciate the help, but please note that Yiddish is not derived from (modern Standard High) German, so an etymology like the one you gave at קורץ has to be amended to trace back to Old High German. Thanks! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:23, 2 October 2015 (UTC)