User talk:Rodasmith/Archive 1

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Are you sure it's necessary to apply the CFI to romaji entries? Wiktionary:Transliteration says "As for whether to create transliteration articles (redirecting or pointing to the non-transliterated form) for the benefit of beginner students, the decision should be made individually for each language, on a language considerations page." I don't see any clear statement at Wiktionary:About Japanese, but it seems to me that Japanese is a particularly good case for including transliterated entries - it would certainly make wiktionary much more useful for me. Kappa 05:42, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I apologize if my mistake caused further confusion. Romaji does belong in Wiktionary; I was confused by our inconsistent treatment of other languages. --Connel MacKenzie T C 06:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the update, Kappa. CFI is one of the more challenging aspects of Wikimedia projects. Anyway, I will revoke my CFI-based RfD's for the romaji and kana entries. I will also request comments in Wiktionary Talk:About Japanese to ensure that it is OK to add a note to Wiktionary:About Japanese regarding modified CFI for romaji and kana entries. Rodasmith 17:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


please be sure to check the block log - and add them to WT:VIP if they are not blocked. —This unsigned comment was added by Connel MacKenzie (talkcontribs) .

Your talk page is protected, so I can't post this reply there, but I found two of the IPs that are not yet blocked: User: and User: Should I add them to WT:VIP? I only ask because I don't see the other IP's there. Rodasmith 21:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


I'm glad I'm not the only one around here that needs to experiment. If you see anything I explained wrong in {{~if}} please correct it, or let me know. --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:40, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

compactDocToc for template documentation[edit]

At Wikipedia, the usual way to structure template talk pages is to use {{compactDocToc}} to keep the documentation visible as the count of discussion topics grows. Is there a different standard format for Wiktionary template documentation? Rodasmith 21:23, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't know for sure.  Some of the more experienced people around here could tell you.  I guess I just thought the TOC down in the middle looked really dumb since it was after the documentation, but included the headings from the documentation.  I guess it's nothing I'm willing to have a big fight over, I just thought it looked really lame. — V-ball 04:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Allow me to butt in: most templates here have the documentation on the template page itself, within noinclude tags. — Vildricianus 07:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Vildricianus. I'll move the docs I started, but probably not before Monday, when I get back to my regular computer. Rodasmith 22:08, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

WT:BP#Template documentation[edit]

Sorry if I overhauled your original post, but I've reworked it so that there's a separate page at Wiktionary talk:Template documentation for further discussion (as a Policy Think Thank). — Vildricianus 11:39, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

how old are you?[edit]

Are you sure the Russian is right? I thought it was something like "сколько у вас лет?" — Vildricianus 21:16, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Not sure. I removed my translation, because you're right that "сколько у вас [тебе] лет?" sounds more natural. Darn. I thought I had that one. Rodasmith 21:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


Hi there. Obvious entries to delete can also be tagged with {{delete}}, which adds them to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. Use {{rfd}} when you're not 100% certain. Cheers. — Vildricianus 21:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

OK. I wondered whether Wiktionary had speedy deletion. Thanks for the info! Rodasmith 21:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Verbal adjective[edit]

That might not be the correct phrase (I got 4 hours of sleep last night; I'm not 100%), but there's a difference between redeemed as in "I redeemed myself when I went to church" and "Jesus has blessed that dude; he is redeemed." I think. --Rory096

OK then. (BTW, I'm a dude) --Rory096 20:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


Informative: we have a whole bunch of useful templates for such things that automatically add categories. Cheers. — Vildricianus 21:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know where to look for those templates, so thanks for the pointer to that category. I did happen to know about {{archaic}}, so I used {{subst:archaic}}. Should I not have used subst? Rodasmith 21:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
No. Actually, I can't think of any main namespace template that is subst:'ed here. BTW the category is new since yesterday :-) — Vildricianus 21:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Months and Days[edit]

Hi, Roda. Would you mind having a look at the Appendices for Appendix:Months of the Year and Appendix:Days of the Week and be sure that both pages include the appropriate Japanese entries? Also, some of these basic entries may be missing from Wiktionary. Kappa has already helped to created the Korean ones, and I'll be looking for others to help in additional languages. Thanks for whatever help you can provide. --EncycloPetey 09:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Will do! Rodasmith 20:16, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: 九月[edit]

どういたしまして! それと the months of the Japanese lunar calendar のエントリー作成、お疲れ様です。いい感じですねー。--Tohru 06:23, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Units of Time[edit]

Hello again, and thanks for filling in the Japanese months of the year! It's so nice to see this information finally showing up on Wiktionary. Second, could you help fill in the Japanese information on Appendix:Units of time? If you know of people who could help fill in more Asian languages, that would be great! --EncycloPetey 12:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

My pleasure. I'll complete the Japanese entries for Appendix:Units of time. BTW, congrats on your admin appointment! Rodasmith 20:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Japanese is done. Rodasmith 06:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

ça va?[edit]

Fixed the one, created the other. Merci, mon ami! BD2412 T 01:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Recent anon contribs[edit]

Thank you for taking this on!

Most sysops do try to visit several of the WT:DW tasks, but very few are claimed. When I used to have time to monitor the anon contribs, I found it very useful to start at the bottom of the list of two thousand changes. Those would be several days old, and therefore much less likely to provoke backlash. Tring to stay on top of current changes is much harder, as the vandals are still lurking about to see that their changes will actually be kept.

I wish you the best of luck. I hope you can stick with it. Remember to take lots of breaks from it so you don't burnout.

As for a specific comment, Apple of Discord I would've marked as "rfc" or "wikify", not "rfv". But I suppose that works, just as well.

--Connel MacKenzie T C 18:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

You've got mail[edit]

I think. --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, your key is in place. Hopefully my little box won't melt just trying to encrypt/decrypt your packets with such a long key!  :-) --Connel MacKenzie T C 21:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Please comment on TR[edit]

I saw this and thought of you. Wiktionary:Tea room#Etymology of Chinese Kanji. It sounds like this new user needs some encouragement, but I'm quite out of my depth (as you well know) when it comes to Japanese or Chinese. --Connel MacKenzie T C 15:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:English verbs?[edit]

In Template:en-infl-reg-consonant... these have been removed a while ago (see its history). —Vildricianus | t | 15:45, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I reverted that addition. It seems strange that so many English entries end up nowhere under Category:English language, but I'd rather not open that can of worms. Rod (☎ Smith) 16:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


Nice work but I think there is still a problem with the new smart code: 2-item lists have a different CSS class since the serial comma is forced into use as non-optional comma in this case. Also there seems to be extra space(s) between the final comma and final element - though this could be either a browser issue or a template compaction issue. Did you try it with all three see also list formatting options in your CSS? I'll try to do that but I'm in the middle of some other tricky things right now. Keep it up! — Hippietrail 01:45, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok I got around to checking and the current see template does indeed result in "See also vän, and Van" - there should be no comma there. Try putting the CSS code for this format in your css. Maybe you can tweak see to output "disambig-see-also-2" in the 2-item case, or maybe you can find some other CSS logic that doesn't require two versions of the div class. — Hippietrail 03:43, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
And 2 more problems. You've got "disambig-see-also2" instead of "disambig-see-also-2". The second problem is you're using the ..2 version even with 1-item lists - but that might not be a problem as long as it all works right. — Hippietrail 04:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC)