User talk:Sentree

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Robert[edit]

But you haven't given us a definition / translation. i.e. There is no line beginning with a #. Also, you haven't told us if it is masculine or feminine. Look at the other language entries. SemperBlotto (talk) 09:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Now I had set it there. Is it good?--Sentree (talk) 09:18, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

teflon[edit]

Teflon is a chemical element? I think not. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:07, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

I can be wrong. You can edit it, if you are disagreeing me.--Sentree (talk) 10:18, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

It's not a chemical element, but it is a word anyhow. Recreated. Semper, why not use RFD, as mortals do? --Hekaheka (talk) 03:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Babel[edit]

Would you please add {{Babel}} to your user page? I'd appreciated it. --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:21, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Modifying declensions[edit]

Recently, you have been modifying some Finnish declensions from "kala" to "solakka", as in diff. The declension "kala" was entered by native speaker Jyril (talkcontribs). Are you sure he is wrong? --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:24, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I am sure, that Henriikoiden and Henriikoitten are right too, because I live in Finland. So propername Henriikka is the 14th declinations word. (Solakka type words.)--Sentree (talk) 14:17, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
You were right with Henriikka, but Robert is of risti-type (not paperi) and I think you were wrong with onsilla as well. Declension of rare words and names is not always easy even for us natives. A great place to check is the website Joukahainen [1]. Even they are not perfect, e.g. onsilla is missing. Another way to check is to use Google or some other search engine. If there's no usage in the net, the word quite likely does not exist. --Hekaheka (talk) 03:36, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Btw, "because I live in Finland" is not sufficient as justification. --Hekaheka (talk) 03:38, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
True. I have found plural forms of proper names especially difficult, because those forms are very rarely used. The primary resource I use for checking word inflections is the KOTUS word list which unfortunately does not have very rare words.--Jyril (talk) 09:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
In Joukahainen our word Tiili is the 26th declinatinos word, not the 23th.--Sentree (talk) 16:04, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Please be careful with modifying declensions, for example alibi, charleston, eeden, etc. are all risti-type words according to KOTUS! Also, you need to follow correct format in askel-type words: the parameter 2 and 3 are reserved for consonant gradation, yer modifications result in error.--Jyril (talk) 13:12, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm restoring the declensions of given names supported by Joukahainen. Some of your changes are valid (Aaron), but many others look like pure speculation (Patrikeitten, Elieleiden). If a name is not in any of the sources above, it's better to err on the side of caution. Some day a bot might create entries for all the inflected forms, and it's a long process to get rid of nonexistent words.--Makaokalani (talk) 11:44, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

A request for edit summaries[edit]

Please give an edit summary stating your source(s) every time you change or add a declension. For example "per Joukahainen/Kotus/NSK", or possibly "by google" if you are prepared to give the three citations as required by WT:CFI. Summaries like "It is paperi" or "I don't believe this" are meaningless. You still make an alarming number of mistakes - and I've only had time to check the most obvious ones. You know how to use references, as your edit of muslimi proves. You just don't bother! Also when your mistakes are reverted here, you should clean them up in the Finnish wiktionary, and vice versa. Updating templates (tuoli > risti, korsi > kynsi, etc) can be ticked as minor edits, without an edit summary. They are not "wrong", but harmless redirects from the time when there was no parameter for front vowels. You seem to be requesting words from Joukahainen. A good idea. --Makaokalani (talk) 15:53, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I believe you in edits with "per joukahainen.puimula.org", but what meaned "too speculative"? For example here--Sentree (talk) 15:12, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Good work! I cannot find declension mistakes in your work since February 14. But you have stopped adding summaries, do remember them. "Too speculative" means that when a word is unknown by Joukahainen, KOTUS and NSK, the declension should be cautious, the simplest possible one, to avoid errors. It is much worse to add nonexistent words than leave out rare forms. With Eelin, the forms included in declension risti are sure to be right. Now if you want to contest this, you should either make a request to Joukahainen (which you clearly did with Eelin) or add three durably archived citations in high quality literary Finnish (in practice from books.google.com, not www.google.fi). NSK is an invaluable book but a little dated, so when KOTUS and Joukahainen disagree with it, the NSK declension can be ignored or labelled "obsolete".Kielitoimiston nimiopas is another good source for names, it does not give plural forms though. --Makaokalani (talk) 09:57, 2 March 2013 (UTC)