User talk:Sigehelmus

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I did originally revert your edit due mostly due to skepticism about the derivation, but then I saw the etymology at Niemiec, which has a link to the Proto-Slavic root. The only reason I didn't restore your version is that this just seems to be a repurposed plural form of that term, and your etymology is really for that term rather than for Niemcy, since a country can't be described as "a foreigner". Chuck Entz (talk) 00:57, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


The origin of this lexeme has never been satisfactorily sorted. However, the analytical version of the O.E.D. rejects any link with Danish TUDSE; but I believe that both the English form and the Danish derive from a pre-historic form, long before the Germanic peoples arrived. The general concensus of modern etymologists is to present a Germanic root wherever possible; but sometimes they miss the true point! Andrew H. Gray 17:27, 4 April 2017 (UTC)Andrew

Oh, I see wow mean it might have come from the elusive Proto-Germanic substrate theorized? What should I put?--Sigehelmus (talk) 19:46, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
@Sigehelmus You edited "in good faith", but ideally the conclusion is that its etymology is so elusive that it cannot be determined. However, there is a slight evidence that oldest form for English TOAD, that is "tadige" is of pre-Indo-European origin, or from another language family. Please see the reference to its origins on its discussion page. Please also see the Etymology Rules on (my) User Page. By the way, I put "my" in brackets since it is no more my User Page than anyone else's! Kind Regards. Andrew H. Gray 09:29, 5 April 2017 (UTC)Andrew (talk)


As regards this edit, firstly, we are not Wikipedia (so their manual of style doesn't matter here), and secondly, replacing a template with untemplated text generally means you're doing something wrong. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:51, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

With all due respect and goodness, the use of CE is contrived if not pretentious. AD is overwhelmingly the standard for yearly time and recognizable instantly to nearly everyone. CE is certainly notable, but far from being near the point of the dominator that AD is. To be quite frank, everyone can reasonably guess what happened around 1 "CE" anyway related to a certain divine carpenter, so the use of CE outside of some politically correct academic settings (which are normally criticized and lambasted anyway) is greatly pretentious if not POV. As a matter of fact, the use of CE may ward off average Joes coming here for actual knowledge and judge this site as some form of PC ivory tower - this effect is more common than you think. CE is useless, haughty, and barren. AD is universal. It's not about Christianity, it's about usage. This site isn't to make a point or spread a dry meme. AD must be installed and kept.--Sigehelmus (talk) 01:27, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
I got it, you have some axe to grind. You can start a discussion if you like, but don't edit-war. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:36, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


Do you know if it's actually pronounced that way in Spanish? It seems much more likely to me that it would be pronounced as "yoi-stic". Ultimateria (talk) 09:03, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

More likely "choi-stick", but you make a valid point: foreign words in a language may follow its phonotactic rules, but generally approximate the donor language in pronunciation. This seems like a very mechanical spelling pronunciation which would only make sense if no one had ever heard the English word pronounced. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:48, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it. Also, since it's a borrowing I would expect the stress to fall on the same syllable as in English, no? Ultimateria (talk) 09:37, 18 April 2017 (UTC)


The template you were looking for is {{l}}. Try to look how similar sections are formatted instead of guessing. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 17:14, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

oh wow, I apologize I actually did mean to put l but I wasn't paying attention...--Sigehelmus (talk) 17:16, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

The etyl template[edit]

Hey, I noticed in this diff that you still use {{etyl}}, which has been made obsolete. While an etymology using that template is still better than not adding an etymology at all, {{etyl}} is being phased out so it would probably be best to avoid its usage in favour of {{der}} (general template if you're not sure of the exact etymological relation), {{inh}} (for directly inherited terms), {{bor}} (for borrowed terms), {{calque}} (for calques), {{cog}} (to list a cognate) etc. which are more precise and allow for more useful categorization. — Kleio (t · c) 23:36, 24 July 2017 (UTC)