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Little known abbreviations[edit]

Let's try out a request to see how it goes (Bequw (talkcontribsrights))

  • Using AWB to convert "cf." to "compare".
  • WT:Todo/obtuse abbr contains page list
  • There's about 2k words, so at 10/min that would take several hours. Let's call it a day and I can unflag myself when I'm done.

--Bequw τ 05:52, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Would you also change "Cf" to "Compare", capitalized? If so, I'm glad to second this.​—msh210 16:16, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes. I'd also handle those with and without periods and the French version (cfr.). --Bequw τ 17:14, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay. So I seconded the nomination, above. (Conditionally, yes, but the condition is being met.) That means that, according to the above-listed procdure, which was authored by Bequw himself and has not yet met with any consensus, Bequw can have the flag. That does not seem to me to mean that he actually can have the flag. Anyone want to weigh in on this? We need a procedure.​—msh210 (talk) 19:53, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm not really sure, but perhaps we could say two admins, besides the nominator if they're an admin, have to approve it? I'm not really sure. I can see reasons why a streamlined version would allow us to get more done, and reasons why too little caution could result in an enormous mess. In any case, I support this motion as well. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 14:24, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
If needs be, I support this as well. Perhaps we should set up a WT:WL-type page, but with a minimum of say 48-hours between the request being made and the request being granted. Thryduulf (talk) 21:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Further comments about the process and not this specific request were moved to Wiktionary_talk:Requests_for_flood_flag#Comments_triggered_by_first_request
I gave myself the FF for about 3 hours, removing it when I saw RF had a different interpretation of when the 48 hours should begin. I'm turning it on again per the ensuing discussion. --Bequw τ 20:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Done. FF is off. --Bequw τ 04:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
My first pass only made one replacement per line. Here's a list of ones that I'll clean up in a second pass. --Bequw τ 20:19, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 22:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

[Comments about procedure moved to Wiktionary talk:Requests for flood flag Thryduulf (talk) 01:12, 25 July 2010 (UTC)]

I turned the flag for an hour and half and just finished round 2. --Bequw τ 19:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Changing the look of references[edit]

As discussed at Wiktionary:BP#Look of references, I'd like to remove the "* Notes:" text from the default display of <references/> tags. Most of this should be full automated so I'll request the flag for Bequwbot (talkcontribsrights).

  • Steps:
    1. Replaces <references/> with {{ref cleanup}}
    2. Remove "* Notes:" from MediaWiki:Cite references prefix while adding it to {{ref cleanup}}
    3. Cleanup {{ref cleanup}} into either a plain <references/> (eg when it comes immediately after a Usage notes or References header) or "* Notes:\n<references/>" (eg when it comes after a bulleted list)
  • Scope: All pages with <references/> (2,334 at last dump)
  • Time requested: Since it's several steps that I'll have to initiate, I'll say a whole day.

--Bequw τ 03:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

  • support. No objections from me. Thryduulf (talk) 11:05, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for offering to do this, BQ. Can you specify what you mean by "eg..."? What would the criteria be for each option? (If it will be done by hand except where it appears after a *bulleted *list or =References= header, then I'm happy to approve.)​—msh210 (talk) 15:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

That's exactly what I meant. Those were the exact conditions in which I'd do an automated change. I'm going to wait for the next dump so that I won't miss anything. --Bequw τ 17:58, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Turned on --Bequw τ 02:20, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Turned off. There were very few ones that would've used {{ref cleanup}} so I hand-dealt with them. --Bequw τ 03:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Request temporary botflag for User:CaBot[edit]

Hello. I'm now importing english past participles to (my). I need the flag to add the langlink to the new imported articles. 48 should stay, thanks by advance -- Quentinv57 15:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Seeking clarification, as the above is difcult to understand. Do you mean precisely this: You've imported English past-participle entries to mywikt; you want to add the interwiki link [[my:foo]] to the enwikt entries; and 48 hours should suffice for the task?​—msh210 (talk) 15:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
You're absolutely right. Sorry for my poor english :/ -- Quentinv57 15:54, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Not needed. We already have a bot that does that for all wiktionaries. Also, User:CaBot has already been adding French proverbs - what's that to do with the above request? SemperBlotto 15:57, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Nothing. I've exported some last night and I can see that none of your bots have added the new langlink to (en) pages -- Quentinv57 16:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

translitreq cats[edit]

Shifting entries from Category:Bulgarian words lacking transliteration to Category:Bulgarian terms lacking transliteration as part of the "words" → "terms" cleanup. I'd be using Bequwbot (talkcontribsrights) as it should require per-page human interaction.

  • Edits: example diff
  • Scope: about a 2,400 Bulgarian entries that have the cat hard-coded.
  • Time: 1 day

--Bequw τ 05:22, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Interestingly I did this without seeing this request. Denied on the grounds I've just done it now. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:50, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 :-P. Thanks. Is this type of request too innocuous to even bother with RFFF? --Bequw τ 14:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

addition of character info templates[edit]

I'd like to add Category:Character info templates to existing character entries that lack them. It would add the correct template, the hex codepoint, and the Unicode name. I'd be using Bequwbot (talkcontribsrights) as it shouldn't require per-page human interaction.

  • Edits: Example (just the top stuff)
  • Scope: about a 2,000 non-Han entries (as I'm not too familiar with Han entries, I'm going to leave them alone for now).
  • Time: 1 day

--Bequw τ 03:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

What's the definition of the set of pages you'll be editing? (I.e., what are you calling character entries?)​—msh210 (talk) 16:28, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Pages that have a title of a single character (so f but not ef) when using NFC. --Bequw τ 00:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay with me.​—msh210 (talk) 19:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Anyone else want to second this? --Bequw τ 05:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
I went ahead and applied the flood flag (which is an implicit support). Use it wisely. -- Prince Kassad 05:27, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Done. --Bequw τ 18:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Redundant Finnish form-of glosses[edit]

Purpose: To remove Finnish form-of glosses where foobar is an inflected form of itself: foobar. The same information is alwys in the same entry, in the conjugation table. I will use WT:AWB.

heyzeuss 10:29, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Looks OK to me. -- Prince Kassad 14:00, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Approved. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:13, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Is this broken? I see the edits in recent changes despite the flag. Nadando 20:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, I haven't been seeing them. Is it your vector.js? Otherwise, no idea, sorry. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:23, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Unflagged.​—msh210 (talk) 19:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Esperanto noun forms[edit]

I'm currently trying to mass-create Esperanto noun forms using WT:ACCEL. It occurred to me these shouldn't really appear in the recent changes. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:29, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Conrad say they should? -- Prince Kassad 16:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Dunno, did he? Mglovesfun (talk) 16:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Withdrawn, having done about 80% of the task anyway. Mglovesfun (talk) 06:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Pre-language images[edit]

I'd like Bequwbot (talkcontribsrights) to move images from the header area (above the first L2) to just inside the first language entry. These images should always, as far as I've seen, be logically in the first language section (eg raven). I'd stay away from {{character info}} and {{stroke order}} templates. This pre-language area cleanup is not only for logical cohesion, but is also necessary for innovations such as User:Atelaes/TabbedLanguages.js which attempt to divide content by language. Previous BP discussions here and here.

After this, the only thing that needs to be worked on in the header is the frequent use of {{wikipedia}}, which could be a bit more complicated. --Bequw τ 04:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Unless there is an important technical reason - and notwithstanding the "logical" association of images with any language section - I would prefer some limits on the bot. Specifically, for pages that have only a single language the picture is unambiguously connected to the language section. Despite all our skills at defining, a picture (an ostensive definition) beats our verbal definitions almost whenever we can find one. I don't see how pandiculation has been improved by putting the rhs ToC ahead of the image. DCDuring TALK 19:47, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
BTW: I have been inserting top of the page links to dab pages on WP whenever I can. As they are function, from a user perspective, like {{also}}, except usually most helpful for proper nouns, placement next to {{also}} seems appropriate. DCDuring TALK 19:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Good idea. I'll exclude single-language pages. --Bequw τ 21:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I support moving all pre-language header content that is language specific under the first header, but I suppose just those that have more than one language is better than nothing. --Yair rand (talk) 04:22, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. --Bequw τ 22:25, 3 October 2010 (UTC)