Wiktionary:Votes/2017-07/Rename the Wikisaurus namespace

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Rename the Wikisaurus namespace[edit]

Voting on:

Proposal 1: Aliasing (i.e., automatically redirecting) "Thesaurus:" to "Wikisaurus:".

(examples: Thesaurus:goodWikisaurus:good, Thesaurus:beverageWikisaurus:beverage, etc.)

Proposal 2: Aliasing (i.e., automatically redirecting) "Synonyms:" to "Wikisaurus:".

(examples: Synonyms:goodWikisaurus:good, Synonyms:beverageWikisaurus:beverage, etc.)

Proposal 3: Moving all the (otherwise unchanged) contents of "Wikisaurus:" to either "Thesaurus:" or "Synonyms:", while keeping "Wikisaurus:" as a namespace alias.

Part 1: Vote whether the namespace should be renamed in the first place.
Part 2: Vote on which of the names should be chosen.
Procedural note: If the "part 1" vote fails, then the "part 2" vote is void.
(naturally, if "Wikisaurus:" is renamed, then any alias approved in the previous proposals will redirect to the new namespace name, unless the alias itself is the new main name of the namespace)

Schedule:

  • Vote starts: 00:00, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23:59, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Vote created: Equinox 20:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion:

Proposal 1: "Thesaurus:" as an alias[edit]

Support[edit]

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support. I don't see why not. -Xbony2 (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support Equinox 16:09, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support Only if renaming the namespace to Thesaurus cannot be done; oppose otherwise. Since, if the namespace will be called Thesaurus, there will of course be no alias Thesaurus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:39, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
    Well, I sort of think that's implied :P although the vote itself isn't too specific so your safety net is well-noted. If need be my vote should be counted in the same fashion -Xbony2 (talk) 20:22, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
    This possibility was predicted in the note in the vote description that starts with: "naturally, if "Wikisaurus:" is renamed, ..." --Daniel Carrero (talk) 20:25, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
  5. Symbol support vote.svg SupportEru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
  6. Symbol support vote.svg SupportVorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
  7. Symbol support vote.svg Support - TheDaveRoss 15:04, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
  8. Symbol support vote.svg SupportAryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Oppose[edit]

Abstain[edit]

Proposal 2: "Synonyms:" as an alias[edit]

Support[edit]

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support. I don't see why not. -Xbony2 (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Oppose[edit]

  1. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Since the pages are not only for synonyms, this would be inaccurate. "Synonyms" is not even shorter to type than "Thesaurus:". A shorter and still reasonably accurate alias would be "Nyms:", even though Wikisaurus does not cover certain -nym relations such as homonyms; it covers synonyms, antonyms, hyponyms, hypernyms, holonyms and meronyms. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:19, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
  2. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per User:Dan Polansky. PseudoSkull (talk) 06:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
  3. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose, but like Dan I would support "Nyms" as an alias, just because it's a lot easier/faster to type. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
  4. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose DCDuring (talk) 03:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Abstain[edit]

  1. Symbol abstain vote.svg Abstain – Synonyms are one of the semantic relations covered by the namespace (though I would guess the most numerous one), and it wouldn't exactly hurt to use the word as a redirect. But to be consistent, all the -nyms that Dan Polansky listed above should be redirects as well. — Eru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
  2. Symbol abstain vote.svg AbstainVorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
  3. Symbol abstain vote.svg Abstain __Gamren (talk) 13:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
  4. Symbol abstain vote.svg AbstainAryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Proposal 3, part 1: Move all contents of "Wikisaurus:" to either "Thesaurus:" or "Synonyms:"[edit]

Support[edit]

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support -Xbony2 (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support Equinox 16:09, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support Move all contents of "Wikisaurus:" to "Thesaurus:", ideally (not necessarily) by renaming the namespace to Thesaurus and aliasing Wikisaurus to that namespace; oppose for "Synonyms:". --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:23, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support – Only if "Thesaurus" is chosen. — Eru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
  6. Symbol support vote.svg Support if moved to "Thesaurus:"--Barytonesis (talk) 12:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
  7. Symbol support vote.svg Support if and only if it’s to ‘Thesaurus:’ — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
  8. Symbol support vote.svg Support - TheDaveRoss 15:05, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
  9. Symbol support vote.svg Support __Gamren (talk) 13:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
  10. Symbol support vote.svg SupportAryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
  11. Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
  12. Symbol support vote.svg Support -- BigDom 11:50, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support - most logical option, since readers are likely to have heard of a "thesaurus", but not a "Wikisaurus". bd2412 T 00:43, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Struck late vote. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Oppose[edit]

Abstain[edit]

Proposal 3, part 2: If the proposal 3, part 1, passes, what should the name be?[edit]

"Thesaurus:"[edit]

Support[edit]
  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support -Xbony2 (talk) 16:06, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support Equinox 16:09, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
  5. Symbol support vote.svg SupportEru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
  6. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Barytonesis (talk) 12:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
  7. Symbol support vote.svg SupportVorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
  8. Symbol support vote.svg Support Will already be familiar to users. Also, using wiki- as a prefix strikes me as sort of whimsical.__Gamren (talk) 13:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
  9. Symbol support vote.svg SupportAryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
  10. Symbol support vote.svg Support. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
  11. Symbol support vote.svg Support DCDuring (talk) 03:38, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
  12. Symbol support vote.svg Support -- BigDom 11:50, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support bd2412 T 01:01, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Struck late vote. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Oppose[edit]
Abstain[edit]
  1. Symbol abstain vote.svg Abstain I liked the name Wikisaurus, but Thesaurus does sound a bit more appropriate and formal. I can't decide which I'd rather have. PseudoSkull (talk) 06:14, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

"Synonyms:"[edit]

Support[edit]
Oppose[edit]
  1. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose. There are antonyms, hypernyms, hyponyms, etc., not just synonyms. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
  2. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per above. -Xbony2 (talk) 16:06, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
  3. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per Daniel C. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
  4. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per above. PseudoSkull (talk) 06:12, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
  5. Symbol oppose vote.svg OpposeEru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
  6. Symbol oppose vote.svg OpposeVorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
  7. Symbol oppose vote.svg OpposeAryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
  8. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per above. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
  9. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose DCDuring (talk) 03:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Abstain[edit]

Decision[edit]

Decision:

  • "Thesaurus:" is going to be the new namespace name, as per the proposal 2.
  • "Wikisaurus:" is going to be kept as an alias, as said in the vote description.
  • Nothing will be done concerning the proposed "Synonyms:".

Phabricator task: phab:T174264.

Breakdown:

  • Proposal 1: "Thesaurus:" as an alias.
    Passed but superseded by the proposal 3. "Thesaurus" is going to be the main name, not an alias.
    Vote count: Technically, 6-2-0 (75%) but only because @Dan Polansky and @Xbony2 made it clear that they vote "oppose" if "Thesaurus" is going to be the new name. This was not needed, because the "main name" proposal overrides the "alias" proposal as predicted in the vote text, but it gets counted anyway.
    [Superficially, the vote count would be this, which does not actually count: 8-0-0 (100%).]
  • Proposal 2: "Synonyms:" as an alias.
    Failed.
    Vote count: 2-4-4 (33.33%)
  • Proposal 3, part 1: Move all contents of "Wikisaurus:" to either "Thesaurus:" or "Synonyms:"
    Passed.
    Vote count: 12-0-0 (100%). 11-1-0 (91.66%) for "Synonyms:" as per Dan Polansky. To be fair, nobody seems to be a fan of "Synonyms:", as shown below.
  • Proposal 3, part 2: "Thesaurus:".
    Passed.
    Vote count: 12-0-1 (100%).
  • Proposal 3, part 2: "Synonyms:".
    Failed.
    Vote count: 0-9-0 (0%).

--Daniel Carrero (talk) 00:26, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Now that the Phabricator ticket has been completed, I think there are a bunch of instances of "Wikisaurus" in the Category:Wikisaurus templates that should be changed to "Thesaurus" to avoid confusion. —JohnC5 23:18, 20 September 2017 (UTC)