Wiktionary talk:Votes/2016-01/(poll) Historical revisions

Schedule

This poll was scheduled to start in 1 month and last for 3 months, so it can be properly reviewed before it starts and have the time for more people to vote once it starts. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 11:23, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

If this is just a poll, why couldn't it be done informally at the BP? --WikiTiki89 18:30, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I prefer not, let's do it here. Because I'm going to oppose it and I'd like to give time for other people to see if it's good before it starts. Previous straw polls that were subpages of WT:V: Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2012-12/Removing phrasebook, Wiktionary:Votes/2014-08/Templates context and label. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 20:14, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

You should realize that those issues were extensively discussed in the BP before any straw polls were conducted. I don't think this issue has every been discussed in the BP. --WikiTiki89 20:26, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Usually, when a high-use template is nominated for deletion ({{term}}, {{l/en}}), @Dan Polansky argues that they should be kept to preserve page histories. (Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2015/November#About deleting l/en, l/la, l/de and others, Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/Others#Template:l/de, Wiktionary:Votes/2015-11/term → m; context → label; usex → ux#usex → ux, etc.)

I predict that this argument is going to keep being used in the future and it will affect RFDO or other discussions that could result in the deletion of those templates. I want to know the what people generally think about it, and preferably I want to see these opinions in a single place, hence the poll.

About your last message: I'm not sure if you are saying that we should only create polls with for issues that were extensively discussed. Or maybe in your opinion we should only create polls with the prefix "Wiktionary:Votes/" for issues that were extensively discussed, and otherwise creating these polls in WT:BP would be fine. I can even move it to WT:BP if that sounds better. Either way, I think it's been discussed enough in the links I mentioned, but do you think it's bad creating polls sometimes for things that were never discussed before? A poll is just a way to organize the replies into categories, so I think it's fine creating a poll for something entirely undiscussed, too. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 23:08, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Essentially what I'm saying, is that no vote or poll should every be created with the prefix "Wiktionary:Vote/..." without being discussed first in the appropriate places (except perhaps procedural ones like desysopping an inactive user). For matters of policy, the appropriate place is the WT:BP. Re "I want to know the what people generally think about it, and preferably I want to see these opinions in a single place": Yes, that's what the BP is for, that's not what votes are for. --WikiTiki89 00:24, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Fair enough. Deleted the vote, created a BP poll. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:13, 19 January 2016 (UTC)