Reconstruction talk:Proto-Indo-European/h₂eydʰ-

Pol. Wędzić < ąditi < eynd-i-ti AND WATRA

It seems that Polish verb with a specialist meaning of 'cook on hot smoke / over fire' is both semantically and etymologically related. As far as I know the Russian equivalent would be " udít' " do the word is native in Common Slavic and could as derive from this root.

Similarly, Polish / Rusyn 'watra / vatra' - 'bonfire, pyre', by extension 'social gathering by bonfire' could have an intrusive initial w/v like in wędzić (common in modern Polish words beginning in an archaic nasal vowel eg. Węgier < Onogur 'Hungarian') provided that a in vatra was nasalised ą that lost the nasal quality. Watra / Vatra < vątra < ątra < ai(n)t-ro.

It is an archaic word that is mostly known in south of Poland dialects - Lesser Poland - and Rusyn (maybe other Slavic languages), whilst the main word for 'fire' is 'ognień gen. pl. ogni' (conf. ignis), pożar < po-żar (żar meaning great heat) for accidental fire and bonfire is a suffixed 'ognisko'. Ralphhalgas (talk) 16:11, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Proto-Indo-European didn't allow a root to end in two sonorants. So the combination -yn- in the coda was not possible. —Rua (mew) 16:13, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

There is a possibility that vatra is one of so called Vlach words that came in contact with Polish / Slovak and Rusyn via contacts with Romanian speaking Vlach shepherds in Mid/West Carpathian range - could as well come from Greek aithos (initialised with a labial v which is common in Polish) Ralphhalgas (talk) 16:16, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Right, maybe it has a different etymology if PIE didn't allow y+n. Ralphhalgas (talk) 16:17, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Albanian, “hith” etymology

Does anyone know if the laryngeal h is preseved there or not? If not please feel free to remove the note left there. Rigers15 (talk) 23:02, 5 April 2023 (UTC)