Talk:し

Etym 2, sentence-ending particle

@Eirikr As someone who couldn't formulate a definition, take this with a grain of salt, but I don't understand the definition (maybe because of the vagueness of "alluding"? but it really doesn't enter my head). (And the new usex translation is very 堅苦しい for a colloquial sentence that uses てか.) —Suzukaze-c (talk) 01:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c: What I was trying to convey is that the final し indicates that there is more to say, but the speaker is deliberately not saying it -- maybe out of politeness, maybe out of brevity, maybe because their thought is only half-formed and not really articulable, etc. It sounds like I missed that mark, so a rewording of the {{n-g}} note is clearly in order.  :)

Re: 堅苦しさ, other than the lack of contraction, what about it is striking you that way? Would contractions help, like "But then, why'd you do it [when you shouldn't have]?" The sense of sentence-final し doesn't translate cleanly, and would more likely be conveyed in English by tone of voice and body language, but leaving it out entirely in a usex is bad form, so I added the sense of し (as fits this specific context, anyway) in the square brackets. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 17:56, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Re: definition: This explanation made sense instantly ^^;

Re: 堅苦しさ: It just doesn't feel like a natural colloquial sentence in the same way as the original. It's probably appropriate as |lit=. —Suzukaze-c (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2021 (UTC)